It had only three _no_ votes. I agree they obviously did not read it. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > I doubt the congress knew (as usual) just what they were voting for with > this. > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:37 AM, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I don't think the Obama sentence is actually part of the text, but it >> is carefully planted in there and is rather suggestive, imo. >> >> On Jan 9, 9:33 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I stand corrected. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:32 AM, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > No, I didn't bring him into this. Embedded within the initial post is >> > > this: "*Will Obama bring the end of prosperity?" >> > > That's why I mentioned that Obama did not sign this into law. I do not >> > > know how he voted on it. >> > >> > > On Jan 9, 9:20 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> But approved by a democratic senate, to which he still belongs. He >> > >> did >> > >> not sign the bill into law but how did he vote as a Senator?? >> > >> > >> You brought him into this wncs. It is yet another example of >> > >> reactionary legislation that has run rampant in the last decade. >> > >> > >> On Jan 9, 7:31 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Please note that this law was signed BEFORE Obama takes office. >> > >> > >> > On Jan 9, 8:20 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > > From: Travis >> > >> > > Subject: Is Feb. 10 financial doomsday for thousands? >> > >> > > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, >> > >> > >> > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85542 >> > >> > >> > > *YOUR GOVERNMENT AT WORK >> > >> > > *Is Feb. 10 financial doomsday for thousands? >> > >> > > New law could force companies into ruin >> > >> > > ------------------------------ >> > >> > > Posted: January 08, 2009 >> > >> > > 12:13 am Eastern >> > >> > >> > > By Chelsea Schilling >> > >> > > (c) 2009 WorldNetDaily >> > >> > >> > > Jacobsen Books in Clinton, Wis. A new government regulation >> > >> > > scheduled to >> > >> > > take effect next month has thousands of retailers, thrift stores >> > >> > > and small >> > >> > > >> > >> > > businesses<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85542#>worried >> > >> > > they will be forced to permanently close their doors – and >> > >> > > destroy >> > >> > > their merchandise. >> > >> > > The law is expected to have such a devastating impact that Feb. >> > >> > > 10 is now >> > >> > > unofficially known as "National Bankruptcy >> > >> > > Day<http://nationalbankruptcyday.com/>." >> > >> > >> > > Congress passed the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of >> > >> > > 2008<http://www.cpsc.gov/cpsia.pdf>, >> > >> > > or HR 4040, a retroactive rule mandating that all items sold for >> > >> > > use by >> > >> > > children under 12 must be tested by an independent party for lead >> > >> > > and >> > >> > > phthalates, which are chemicals used to make plastics more >> > >> > > pliable. >> > >> > > All untested items, regardless of lead content, are to be >> > >> > > declared "banned >> > >> > > hazardous products.'' The CPSC has already determined the law >> > >> > > applies to >> > >> > > every children's item on shelves, not just to items made >> > >> > > beginning Feb. 10. >> > >> > > The regulations could force thousands of businesses – especially >> > >> > > smaller >> > >> > > ones that cannot afford the cost of lead testing – to throw away >> > >> > > truckloads >> > >> > > of children's clothing, books, toys, furniture and other >> > >> > > children's items >> > >> > > and even force them to close their doors. >> > >> > > *Will Obama bring the end of prosperity? Get the book that shows >> > >> > > how higher >> > >> > > taxes will doom the economy – if we let it >> > >> > > happen.*<http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2511> >> > >> > > *Children's books* >> > >> > > Valerie Jacobsen and her husband, Paul, support their family of >> > >> > > 13 by >> > >> > > selling literature at Jacobsen Books in Clinton, Wis. Her family >> > >> > > has >> > >> > > contracts with local libraries to buy and sell overstocked books >> > >> > > – an >> > >> > > arrangement that draws income for both parties. >> > >> > > However, Jacobsen told WND that lead testing is estimated to cost >> > >> > > $100 to >> > >> > > $400 for each of her used children's books because she does not >> > >> > > buy in bulk, >> > >> > > and each batch of merchandise is required to be tested. >> > >> > > "There's a big difference between me and Wal-Mart or Toys 'R' >> > >> > > Us," she said. >> > >> > > "They'll have a batch of 50,000. Everything I have is a batch of >> > >> > > one because >> > >> > > I don't know its history. I'm looking at a testing cost of about >> > >> > > $1.2 >> > >> > > million. I would normally sell my full inventory of all >> > >> > > children's products >> > >> > > for probably $15,000. So, it's effectively a ban." >> > >> > >> > > Valerie Jacobsen >> > >> > > The Consumer Product Safety Commission states that lead testing >> > >> > > requirements >> > >> > > apply to children's books, cassettes and CDs, printed game >> > >> > > boards, posters >> > >> > > and other printed goods used for children's education. While it >> > >> > > does claim >> > >> > > some printing inks will be exempt, paper, cardboard, bindings, >> > >> > > glues, >> > >> > > laminates and other inks are still subject to regulation and >> > >> > > require >> > >> > > testing. >> > >> > > Jacobsen said that unless the new law is repealed or >> > >> > > substantially modified, >> > >> > > it could devastate her family business. >> > >> > > "I don't want to stop selling children's books on Feb. 9," she >> > >> > > said. "I need >> > >> > > that income. We provide a lot of reading for a lot of little >> > >> > > kids. I went >> > >> > > into this business because I thought that books were good for >> > >> > > children's >> > >> > > mental development. That opinion hasn't changed. And the >> > >> > > government's ruling >> > >> > > is essentially saying they're hazardous for children's mental >> > >> > > development >> > >> > > because they might contain lead. We just have no evidence that >> > >> > > they do." >> > >> > > *Children's second-hand clothing* >> > >> > > Jacobsen said she often shops at second-hand stores for her 11 >> > >> > > children >> > >> > > because she can buy quality clothing at low prices. >> > >> > > "Over the years I have always tried to make the most of our >> > >> > > money, so we'll >> > >> > > go to Goodwill," she said. "To be honest, I'd rather go to >> > >> > > Goodwill and get >> > >> > > a brand-name item that's hardly been worn and pay $3.99 for it >> > >> > > than to go to >> > >> > > Wal-Mart and pay $13.99 for something that in six weeks from now >> > >> > > is not >> > >> > > going to worth anything." >> > >> > > But now some thrift and consignment stores are in a panic over >> > >> > > the new >> > >> > > regulation because it extends to children's clothing, shoes and >> > >> > > other items >> > >> > > as well. >> > >> > > Cindy Retmier owns a consignment store called Jordan's Closet in >> > >> > > El Dorado >> > >> > > Hills, Calif. She told KXTV News 10 that the law could close her >> > >> > > business. >> > >> > > "[W]e've been passing kids clothing down for centuries," she >> > >> > > said. "Now all >> > >> > > of sudden you can't do it because there might be too much lead in >> > >> > > one item >> > >> > > out of a thousand? I mean it's ridiculous they've taken it to the >> > >> > > extent >> > >> > > they've taken it right now." >> > >> > >> > > Goodwill >> > >> > > She estimates testing for each of her clothing articles to run >> > >> > > between $300 >> > >> > > and $1,500. The Consumer Product Safety Commission said it may >> > >> > > consider >> > >> > > exempting clothing and toys made from natural materials such as >> > >> > > wool or >> > >> > > wood, but paint and dyes on the products are still required to be >> > >> > > tested. >> > >> > > "We only sell stuff for an average of $10 so, of course that >> > >> > > doesn't make >> > >> > > sense," Ritmier said. >> > >> > > Even Goodwill Industries told the station it may be forced to >> > >> > > stop selling >> > >> > > clothing and other children's items if testing is too expensive. >> > >> > > The move >> > >> > > could affect consumers who donate items for tax write-offs if the >> > >> > > stores are >> > >> > > not able to sell them. >> > >> > > "A huge hit for us and a huge hit for consumers that are trying >> > >> > > to save a >> > >> > > dollar in this economy," Goodwill's Mark Klingler told KXTV. >> > >> > > "We'll have to >> > >> > > analyze it. It may involve not selling if we can't realistically >> > >> > > test >> > >> > > everything." >> > >> > > Likewise, Shauna Sloan, founder of the Salt Lake City-based Kid >> > >> > > to Kid >> > >> > > Franchise, which sells used children's clothing in 75 stores >> > >> > > across the >> > >> > > country, told the Los Angeles Times his business could end. >> > >> > > "We will have to lock our doors and file for bankruptcy," he >> > >> > > said. >> > >> > > *Small toy businesses* >> > >> > > All children's toys and furniture also fall under strict >> > >> > > requirements for >> > >> > > independent lead and phthalate testing. Some small toy businesses >> > >> > > say lead >> > >> > > testing alone costs more than $4,000 per item – a price some say >> > >> > > only large >> > >> > > companies like Mattel and Fisher Price can afford to pay. >> > >> > > "The only people who can do that now are the ones who actually >> > >> > > put this >> > >> > > scare into effect and actually caused the problem," Amy Evan's, >> > >> > > owner of >> > >> > > Baby's Boutique in Chico, Calif., told CBS' KHSL. >> > >> > > *Home-based and small businesses* >> > >> > > Shelsie Hall told KXTV she makes >> > >> > > >> > >> > > hair<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85542#>bows >> > >> > > and jewelry for children and sells them online to support her >> > >> > > family. >> > >> > > Now her small >> > >> > > business<http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=85542#>is >> > >> > > threatened by the measure because those products must be tested. >> > >> > > "[M]y items sell for $4 to $10 and I make a lot of different >> > >> > > things. So I >> > >> > > couldn't just test one; I would have to test every item," she >> > >> > > said. >> > >> > > One blogger who identifies herself as "Tina" has a home-based >> > >> > > business >> > >> > > making and selling cloth diapers online. She said a U.S. lab >> > >> > > quoted a price >> > >> > > of $75 to test each component of her diapers. >> > >> > > "I have at least two different fabrics, thread, snaps and >> > >> > > elastic in a >> > >> > > diaper," she wrote. "$375 to test each different combination of >> > >> > > fabrics/snaps/thread/size combinations? That is insane." >> > >> > > She continued, "I am but one of many micro-manufacturers who will >> > >> > > be forced >> > >> > > to give up the American dream of owning my own business because >> > >> > > of this >> > >> > > legislation." >> > >> > > Tina said retailers purchase inventory with loans secured by the >> > >> > > value of >> > >> > > that inventory. >> > >> > > "What happens to these lenders and retailers when the value of >> > >> > > that >> > >> > > inventory goes to zero?" she asked. "It is conceivable, at least >> > >> > > to me, that >> > >> > > retailers will be the next group in front of Congress asking for >> > >> > > a bailout." >> > >> > >> > > The act's broad wording could extend to children's items sold on >> > >> > > eBay, >> > >> > > Craig's List, Amazon. Critics also say landfills will be hit hard >> > >> > > if stores, >> > >> > > distributors and families simply throw their untested items away >> > >> > > rather than >> > >> > > face prosecution. 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