Mark: Pakistan celebrates its independence day on August 14th;India on 15th.
Mohd. Ali Jinah, the Muslim leader (Party: Muslim league) wished to PM of India. Before Independence they were in power in two provinces. Please go through this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Action_Day Pakistani writer Irfan Hussain : Title Demons from past --> You will realize that even Hindus were subjected to Holocaust in their own home land by the Muslim invaders. Muslims in India, even though had Hindu blood (at least from their great great grandmother), had some superiority complex and they didn't believe co-exist with Hindus. http://hindtoday.com/Blogs/ViewBlogsV2.aspx?HTAdvtId=71&HTAdvtPlaceCode=PAK If you will read the Wiki Link of Direct Action Day, The Chief Minister of Muslim League Bengal, (1946, 1 year before independence ) threatened - "Unless they get an Islamic piece from India , they will destroy India by Jihad". Since Gandhi was the undisputed leader of India [1], he, even though upset with the division, finally conceded & urged Congress (the name of political party) to approve division of Pakistan. [1] Gandhi was a Muslim appeaser. [ http://hindtoday.com/Blogs/ViewBlogsV2.aspx?HTAdvtId=3016&HTAdvtPlaceCode=IND ] But, the worst nightmare was yet to come. When Pakistan was carved out, it was expected that they will protect the Hindu minorities there. But, they just followed , what their Invader great great grand fathers did. Slaughter the men, rape the women. They can of course keep multiple wives. Geographically, Pakistan was East Pakistan & West Pakistan. East Pakistanis were 'Bengali' speaking Muslims & the West Pakistan (Current) were 'Urdu' speaking Muslims. So, the mainland Muslims mis- treated them (mentioned in Irfan Hussian's article) and in 1971, Bangladesh was liberated from Pakistan, with India's help. British were leaving India any way. So you are right .British knew that there will be partition. But, it is believed that British encouraged the Muslims to fight for a separate Muslim state. But, majority of Muslims preferred to stay in India, even though they condoned the formation of separate islamic country. That is why the right wing parties of India still upset & suspects their patriotism as when the country needs them, they support brotherhood. e.g. India and Israel both are victims of terror. While Pakistan was carved out from India in 1947, the Indian Muslims didn't say a word from their mouth. But, when Israel was carved out, they were furious.. They love to live under dictators with full satisfaction, but when given a chance to live in USA/UK/India, form civil society groups and always complain of discrimination/snub. On Jan 11, 5:29 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > Surprisingly Manoj, I am for the most part in agreement with you. > Thank you for being concise. > > There is only one point I question... Britain knew there would > probably be a partitian > but I thought it was accomplished after Independence. > > Why is there such a huge difference between Bangladesh politics and > those of Pakistan. Both were formed at the same time and both of > "indian-moslems", no ?? > > any thoughts would be appreciated. > > On 1/11/09, MANOJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Because of conquests, invasion, ethnic cleansing - there were > > migrations. > > > e.g. Buddhists were slaughtered (mens slaughtered/women raped) from > > Afghanistan and now it is an Islamic country. > > > On 1947, after India got independence from British colonial rule, > > Muslims demanded a portion because they feared that a Hindu majority > > Government may marginalize them. They threatened that if a separate > > nation for them is not carved out, they will destroy India by Jihad. > > After a land was given, the slaughtered all men from Pakistan and > > raped all women. The formula of ethnic cleansing. > > > Now, you may see, after 60 years, how India and Pakistan maintained > > their territory. While secular India is in path of progress and > > prosperity, Pakistan has become the epicenter of 'Terror'.. > > > The 'Ottomans' and British people allowed them legally to immigrate, > > just like USA allowed 2.5 million Jews to immigrate. Why in USA it is > > legal and in Palestine that is illegal. > > > Also, when some one immigrates, he buys land and try to settle there. > > The British had a 'Jews regiment' in their Army, who fought with > > Palestinians in war. So obviously, they were Jews sympathizers , while > > they were at the helm of affairs of Palestine. The same British, > > allowed carving of Muslim country 'Pakistan' out of India, for the > > same very reason and the Islamic world is silent about that. WHy > > silent ? Because they were beneficiary ? > > > Case-1 > > How did Muslims found in India ? By Invasion/ conversion., when Hindus > > were not at the helm of affairs. > > > case-2 > > How did jews end up in Palestine ? By Lawful immigration, when > > Palestinians were not at the helm of affairs . > > > Why case-1 is right and why case-2 is wrong ? > > > Also, How did Palestinians lost their land in 1948 ? By attacking > > Israel. Didn't they thought the consequence of losing a war ? Lost & > > screwed up ? > > > What if Palestinians/Arabs were won the war ? All Jews men would have > > been slaughtered and all Jews women would have been raped and Now we > > would be seeing another Afghanistan. > > > While in case of Palestine, they are shouting because they couldn't do > > an ethnic cleansing of Jews, just like they did for Hindus in Pakistan/ > > Bangladesh. > > > On Jan 9, 2:39 pm, "Emin Mahmutovic" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > For Palestinian state... > > > There were not actually Jews living in that "province" until Ottomans let > > > them to immigrate in 4 sacred cities... And with exception of Ancient > > > History there were no Jews in there before Ottomans came (except small > > > number of them)... > > > So, where is legitimacy to get gift from England to give Israel state to > > > be > > > established where Jews didn't live???? > > > > For Iraq... > > > "Iraqis ended up with their sovereignty, democracy, and friendship with > > > the > > > United States." > > > > - i dont believe that even you believe in your story... heheheh ... So, > > > lets > > > forget war, atrocities and fight between Sunnis and Shias (really hard > > > one) > > > after you " brought them democracy"... Democracy is not possible in > > > middle > > > east... I have lived there .. they are not so mature, so don't believe in > > > folktale of democracy until you experience it there ... > > > > Iraq... We will see what will happen after US stops with paying Sunis to > > > defend themself... I thing that this program ends soon and then Iraq will > > > be > > > in the news again... > > -- > Mark M. Kahle > Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
