Agreed, whole heartedly. On Mar 19, 2:58 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > Well Is He, or Isn’t He? > > Paul > Hollrah<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/authors/id.62/author_detail.asp> > It is a popular topic of discussion in political circles these days, and as > the weeks pass more and more people are asking, “Is Barack Obama really a > natural born citizen of the United States? Is he eligible to serve as > President, or isn’t he?” If he is, then so be it. We’ll just have to grit > our teeth until this long dark nightmare comes to an end… one way or > another. > But what if he is not eligible? What then? Well, in that case we have a > problem… a very large problem, the solution to which could tear asunder the > fabric of American society. > Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution states that, “No person > except a natural born citizen… shall be eligible to the office of President; > neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have > attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident > within the United States.” > That’s pretty straightforward, yet, when confronted with the possibility > that the man who sits in the Oval Office may be a usurper, a great many > otherwise patriotic Americans can be heard to say, “What difference does it > make? The election’s over; the people have spoken. Get over it!” > Well, it’s not quite as simple as all that and the sooner we can all be > satisfied that Obama is or is not a natural born citizen, the better. To > postpone that finding for a year or two and then find, conclusively, that > Obama is not eligible to serve as president would be disastrous. Every new > law and every executive order he had signed, every political appointment, > every judicial appointment, every order he had given to the military, and > every act and every decision of all of his appointees would immediately > become null and void. How could we ever undo all of that? > The American people would quickly learn that it is not much easier to undo > two or three years of history than it is to undo a decade or a century. It > is imperative that we get to the bottom of this mystery as quickly as > possible so that all Americans, regardless of party affiliation, can finally > accept that, like it or not, Barack Obama is our president. In order to do > that, and to force Obama to end his stubborn refusal to produce his birth > certificate, his passports, his > visas<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2700/pub_detail....>, > and his college records, we must continue to recruit more and more Americans > to insist that he do so. > To do that, it is not necessary to prove that he was born in > Kenya<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2700/pub_detail....>, > not in > Hawaii<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2700/pub_detail....>… > as his paternal grandmother, a Kenyan half-brother, and a Kenyan half-sister > insist… or who his natural father may have been. The proof of Obama’s > failure to meet the “natural born citizen” standard is much simpler than > that. > To convert a non-believer… one who insists that the Constitutional > requirements must be met, but who believes that questions about Obama’s > citizenship<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2700/pub_detail....>status > are nothing more than sour grapes… it is only necessary to establish > the facts surrounding Obama’s > travel<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2700/pub_detail....>to > Indonesia and Pakistan in the summer of 1981. > Although Obama fails to mention that trip in either of his memoirs… > not in *Dreams > from My Father* and not in *The Audacity of Hope*… he made a potentially > fatal error when he mentioned the Pakistan trip during an April 6, 2008 > speech in San Francisco… the same speech in which he referred to rural > Pennsylvanians as “bitter” people who “cling to guns or religion…” In that > speech, Obama explained in an offhand manner the value of that trip, > vis-à-vis his knowledge of foreign affairs, saying, “I knew what Sunni and > Shia was (sic) before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.” > When questioned about that trip, Obama’s campaign press secretary, Bill > Burton, confirmed to the *New > York<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2700/pub_detail....>Times > *, and others, that Obama had visited Pakistan in 1981 on his return from > Indonesia, traveling there with a Pakistani friend from Occidental College, > Wahid Hamid. According to Burton, Obama stayed in Karachi with the family of > another Pakistani friend, Mohammed Hasan Chandoo. Obama has never mentioned > the Pakistan trip again. > So it is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in > 1981. What is not established, and what is critically important, is what > passport he used during that trip. There are only three possibilities: Obama > could have traveled under a U.S. passport… a passport first issued when he > and his mother moved from Hawaii to Indonesia in 1967; he could have > traveled under an Indonesian passport, issued following his adoption by his > Indonesian stepfather; and it is conceivable that, if he was, in fact, born > in Kenya in 1961, he could still have been a British subject, traveling with > a British passport. So which is it? > Unfortunately for Obama, in the present circumstance, Pakistan was under > martial law in 1981 and certain undesirables… Christians, Jews, and > Americans… were prohibited from entering the country. Pakistan was on the > U.S. State Department’s “no travel” list, making a U.S. passport no more > valuable than an empty chewing gum wrapper at the Karachi Port of Entry. > So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without > the price of a hotel > room<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2700/pub_detail....>in > his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip > just a month later? And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York, > Jakarta, and Karachi, what passport was he offering when he passed through > Customs and > Immigration<http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2700/pub_detail....>? > The > American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they * > must* have answers. > It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one. > Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20? > A: > Yes, by his own admission. > Q: What passport did he travel > under? > A: There are only three > possibilities. 1. He traveled with a U.S. passport, 2) He traveled with a > British passport, or 3) He traveled with an Indonesian passport. > Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. passport in > 1981? A: No. It is not > possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department’s “no travel” list in > 1981. > Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with > a British passport or an Indonesian passport. > If he was traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he > was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he > was traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he > relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, > prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967. > Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he > managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008. > Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his > speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to > Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better. > Is he a “natural born” citizen, or isn’t he? It seems pretty clear from the > available evidence that he is not. If that proves to be the case he should > minimize the damage to the country and follow the Nixon example; he should > simply resign from office so that we can begin to clean up the mess he > leaves behind. > *FamilySecurityMatters.org <http://familysecuritymatters.org/> Contributing > Editor Paul Hollrah is a Senior Fellow at the > Lincoln<http://familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2014/pub_detail.asp>Heritage > Institute. > * > > 2009/3/19 <[email protected]> > > > > > > >http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.2700/pub_detail.asp > > __._,_.___ > > Messages in this topic > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apfn-1/message/140829;_ylc=X3oDMTM4bzRh...>( > > 1) Reply (via web post) > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apfn-1/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZmYxY2RuBF9TAz...>| > > Start > > a new topic > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apfn-1/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMzkwcmo0BF9TAz...> > > Messages<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apfn-1/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJldWphMmNhBF...> > > APFN-1 YahooGroups: > > Subscribe: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apfn-1/join > > > APFN MSG BOARD: > > `In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.' > >http://disc.yourwebapps.com/Indices/149495.html > > > APFN LIVE TV 24/7 > >http://www.apfn.org/tv.htm > > > APFN MASTER AUDIO / VIDEO LIST: > >http://www.apfn.net/videos.asp > > > "RADIO YOUR WAY" APFN POGO NETWORK (( WOW!! )) > > "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of > > good conscience to remain silent" -- Thomas Jefferson > >http://www.apfn.net/POGO.HTM > > > Find elected officials, including the president, members of > > Congress, governors, state legislators, local officials, and more. > >http://congress.org/congressorg/dbq/officials/ > > > APFN - SUPPORT / DONATIONS > > PMB 206, 7549 W. 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