That's an obvious lie I posted this because it was from 2 years ago and Chavez is now even more obviously a nazi
Did he vandalize the synagogue in Caracas last month because it was hiding weapons? Has he sent copes out to beat up student demonstrators because they had guns Does being a stalinist nazi embarass you or are you that dumb? On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:58 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]>wrote: > > The point is I thought wrong and have deleted the files I had on this > one and am too lazy to go a hunting and translating all over again. > The Private owners of the station were floating money to the "rebel" > cause that was rising in the country and that money was traced to some > "armed" men at a proHugo rally. It was not so much to do with what > they were announcing on air as what the money they were making was > being donated to. It was the job (in the previous, non-Hugo, gov. as > well) of a presidential appointee to decide who got the license and > who got renewed.... what did they expect ?? > > And no, "freedom" is not the same in all countries. To apply your > ideal to a different yet just as sovereign entity is THE great > "American" failing. > > On Mar 23, 9:11 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > I guess I am missing the point Mark..... > > > > I believe that I understood the situation regarding the RC TV situation, > > (again, "I think") which has been brewing for at least a year. Charles > > Hardy's article was attempting to portray Chavez as the beacon of free > > speech in Venezuela and Latin America in general, which I disagree with. > I > > am aware that media and the concept of free speech is much different in > > Venezuela as well as most all of South America, but to suggest, as Hardy > > did, that Chavez and the current Venezuelan government is some kind of > > beacon of free thought and information as compared to pre-Chavez > Venezuela > > is more than misleading, it is dishonest. > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:02 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I'm correct, the license was NOT yanked (as some are trying to do > > > with certain chains here) it was "vencido" or due for renewal... it > > > was NOT renewed. > > > > > There is a HUGE difference in the two. Please try to read the > > > documents in the original language rather than trust some hack with an > > > axe to grind. > > > > > what do ya call a man that speaks three or more languages..... German > > > > > two or > > > more... > > > European > > > > > just > > > one....... > > > tourist > > > > > Just one and poorly > > > Gringo > > > > > Standard joke in the world. > > > > > The standard of reporting on anything not in English (as in MOST > > > things in the world) stinks and for those things in English it is so > > > slanted as to be completely unreliable.... but here you are swearing > > > to what amounts to pure BULLSHIT. > > > > > just what does that make you ?? > > > > > On Mar 23, 8:17 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > more of an actual Stalinist and more interested in international > politics > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Keith In Tampa < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > I don't guess I have had the pleasure of meeting, > "Skunk".....(LOL!!) > > > > > Anything like our buddy Lil' Jimbo?? > > > > > > > On Mar 23, 10:08 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > do you know skunk > > > > > > > > i.e. Shunk > > > > > > > > one of the actual Stalinists who post in many groups > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Keith In Tampa < > > > [email protected] > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > I note that the guy who actually penned the article, Charlie > Hardy, > > > is > > > > > > > a far left, radical extremist Chavez supporter....That explains > his > > > > > > > support of RCTV having its license pulled, as well as his > > > revisionist > > > > > > > historical facts..... > > > > > > > > >http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/charlie-hardy > > > > > > > > > On Mar 23, 8:57 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes you are slow as we know Nazi skunk > > > > > > > > > > I see you evaded the question of whether you will be helping > your > > > > > fuehrer > > > > > > > > stone more Jews and vandalize more synagogues > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:54 PM, shunkw < > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is from 2 years ago……LOL….Kinda slow on the uptake I > > > would > > > > > > > > > say……LOL….. > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > > > > > > > > > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *bruce > majors > > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2009 7:52 PM > > > > > > > > > *To:* [email protected]; > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > ; > > > > > > > > > [email protected]; 1.31 > > > > > > > LibertarianMedia; > > > > > > > > > [email protected]; > > > > > > > > > [email protected]; Southern by the > > > Grace of > > > > > > > God; > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: FW: Don't Cry for Venezuela's RCTV > > > > > > > > > > > skunk is a fascist as we all knew > > > > > > > > > > > will you be helping Chavez stone Jews and burn synagogues > this > > > > > summer? > > > > > > > > > > > airwaves are like any other property. they can be > home-steaded > > > and > > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > > into marketable titles owned by individuals > > > > > > > > > > > only when they are private property like laptops and > printing > > > > > presses > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > speech be free > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 5:35 PM, ShunkW < > [email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > *I am ALL for freedom of the press but I thought I would > > > forward > > > > > this. > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > guess this must have been the FUX NEWS of Venezuela and > they > > > abused > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > public airwaves and their license was not renewed. SPEECH > is > > > FREE > > > > > but > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > airwaves belong to us all. We should hold OUR networks MUCH > > > more > > > > > > > responsible > > > > > > > > > because those airwaves of OURS that they USE are worth > > > BILLIONS. > > > > > That > > > > > > > means > > > > > > > > > the “News” networks are using OUR assets (basically taxes) > to > > > feed > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > propaganda. Maybe we should even withhold a license or two > for > > > > > those > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > don’t. It would sure beat having Colin Powell’s idiot son > > > doling > > > > > them > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > FOR FREE!!!!!!!* > > > > > > > > > > > Don't Cry for Venezuela's RCTV > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, May 28, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > > By: Charlie Hardy - NarcoSphere > > > > > > > > > > > As I write this, I am looking at a Venezuelan newspaper, El > > > Diario, > > > > > > > > > from February 10, 1992. The editorial that would have > occupied > > > half > > > > > > > > > of page 2 is missing. Page 4 is completely blank. The > contents > > > were > > > > > > > > > censored by the government of the then president Carlos > Andres > > > > > Perez. > > > > > > > > > > > The newspaper is just one of many horrible memories of the > > > pre-Hugo > > > > > > > > > Chavez days in Venezuela's "exceptional" democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > U.S. newspapers seem to overlook what Venezuela used to be > like > > > as > > > > > > > > > they today discuss the actions of the current government. I > > > have > > > > > > > > > lived in Venezuela for most of the past 22 years and have > never > > > > > > > > > experienced such freedom as that which the Venezuelan > > > population > > > > > > > > > enjoys today under Hugo Chavez. That would include freedom > of > > > > > > > > > information. Never, in the past 22 years, has the mass > media > > > > > > > > > experienced the freedom it has had during the presidency of > > > Chavez. > > > > > > > > > One can freely buy anti-Chavez newspapers on streets and > the > > > > > airwaves > > > > > > > > > and television channels are amply filled with anti-Chavez > > > > > > > > > commentators. > > > > > > > > > > > However, today, May 27, the Venezuelan government will not > > > renew > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > license of RCTV, a television station that has been on the > air > > > for > > > > > > > > > over 50 years. The owner, Marciel Granier, has been running > > > around > > > > > > > > > the world crying because he is about to loose his license. > Even > > > the > > > > > > > > > millionaires in the U.S. Senate feel he should get to keep > the > > > > > > > > > license. Interestingly, Granier was president of the > censored > > > El > > > > > > > > > Diario in 1992. He didn't complain then. I bought his > > > newspaper. He > > > > > > > > > got his money. > > > > > > > > > > > What the news reports in the U.S. don't tell us, and what > the > > > U.S. > > > > > > > > > Senate doesn't seem to understand, is that hundreds of > > > thousands of > > > > > > > > > Venezuelans will be celebrating tonight at midnight because > > > RCTV's > > > > > > > > > license will have expired. They've been meeting on city > squares > > > and > > > > > > > > > corners throughout Venezuela discussing who owns the air > and > > > what > > > > > > > > > kind of programming they would like on their television > sets. > > > They > > > > > > > > > are asking whether it is truly fair that if you are a > > > millionaire, > > > > > > > > > you can buy the air space of the people for the next 20 > years. > > > > > > > > > Independent producers will now have a chance to get their > > > programs > > > > > > > > > shown, without having to obtain the approval of Granier who > has > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > something of a media dictator in Venezuela. > > > > > > > > > > > Granier is no saint and his channel hasn't been an example > of > > > the > > > > > > > > > heavenly kingdom on earth either. RCTV was taken off the > air > > > five > > > > > > > > > times by Venezuelan administrations before Chavez ever > entered > > > the > > > > > > > > > presidential palace. In 1981, for example, it was taken off > the > > > air > > > > > > > > > for 24 hours because of airing pornographic scenes. > > > > > > > > > > > In 2002, RCTV actively encouraged Venezuelans to march > toward > > > the > > > > > > > > > presidential palace in order to participate in a coup that > was > > > > > taking > > > > > > > > > place to overthrow the democratically elected president. > > > Marciel > > > > > > > > > Granier gave clear instructions to the managing producer of > > > > > > > > > Venezuela's most watched news program on the day of the > coup > > > that > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > should not give any information about President Chavez. > Actions > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > this would not be tolerated by the FCC in the U.S. > > > > > > > > > > > However, when Chavez returned to power a few days later, no > > > > > reprisals > > > > > > > > > were taken against the channel. > > > > > > > > > > > No, May 27 is not a sad day for freedom of expression in > > > Venezuela, > > > > > > > > > so don't weep for Mr. Granier when RCTV's license is not > > > renewed. > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > can still broadcast through cable or satellite and he can > still > > > > > sell > > > > > > > > > his programming to other stations. Instead, rejoice with > all > > > the > > > > > > > > > independent producers and thousands of Venezuelan who will > have > > > > > > > > > access to the space one wealthy man controlled for years. > May > > > 28 > > > > > will > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
