Doc,

Either you or I are missing the point here, and I am not sure which one of
us it is....

Americans have always been an independent lot, which is something that our
federal government is, and for years has been attempting to do away with.

I am an American, and I am a survivor!  During most all of my adult life and
professional career, I have never had a "job" where I worked for someone, I
have always been able to go out and create something, and make something on
my own.  I have always provided a good living for my family and I, and just
as every other American, I have had a lot of roadblocks and obstacles come
up ove the course of years.   I was not born with a silver spoon in my
mouth!!  My parents were divorced and in essence, I came from a lower
socio-economic middle class background.

I live in "surburbia"; but rest assured, if it got so bad that there were
food riots or food shortages, I can and will survive.  My 1/3rd acre lot
here in Tampa is filled with fruit trees, figs, tomatoes, beans, and a host
of other vegetables, and I am less than a quarter mile from Tampa Bay, which
I grew up on, (I know the Bay well, and all of the fishing 'Honey Holes")

As Hank Junior wrote years ago, "We can skin a deer, and run a trout
line.....A country boy can survive";   and I ain't "country"!!

My point being, is that Americans are survivors, and I damn sure don't need
a humongous federal government to protect me or to provide for me!

It used to be that all Americans had this same mindset, and I blame our
government for taking away this mentality!!




On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Doc Holliday <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Hey and BTW lets send more Brad Pit fucking American Idol relief to
> Africa instead of tractors and education. Is that not what's good for
> the American agribusiness or what? Isn't dependence a wonderful
> solution?
>
> Peace,
> Doc
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 8:55 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hey Bruce....
> >
> > One, I have never had a "master". I have never worked "for" anyone. I
> > have been given assignments... how to carry them out and how long they
> > took was always entirely my choice.
> >
> > B. There is no food shortage where I live nor is one possible. It,
> > unlike money (your Master), does grow on trees, bushes and various
> > plants, It is also walking all over the place. This all takes place 12
> > months a year. Food is always in season here.
> >
> > 3. Did I mention it is all fresh.... no need for a processing plant.
> >
> > I certainly hope that your concerns for my safety and health have been
> > answered. I do appreciate it.
> >
> > On Mar 26, 5:23 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > poor moronic puppet
> >
> > > is that the best your masters have taught you in defending their
> schemes
> > > against exposure
> >
> > > they won't be feeding you during the food rationing
> >
> > > you'll be sent to the processing plant
> >
> > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:14 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <
> [email protected]>wrote:
> >
> > > > Speaking of BLOVIATING>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >
> > > > On Mar 26, 10:58 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I don't think you tax predators and their flaks are even 50% yet.
> >
> > > > > But no matter.  You were dependent on being able to sell China and
> others
> > > > > promissary notes where you promised to parasitize and enslave
> future
> > > > > generations of tax slaves to pay back the debt on any money they
> would
> > > > loan
> > > > > you
> >
> > > > > And they aren't buying any more
> >
> > > > > So your system of slavery is going to collapse soon anyway
> >
> > > > > Or are you some little cannon fodder dupe who believes the pseudo
> class
> > > > > analysis your Hitlers fed you?
> >
> > > > > No matter
> >
> > > > > you will be starving and in a food riot during the hyper-inflation
> anyway
> >
> > > > > you don't sound smart enough to survive
> >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >    Sure. Go for it, if you think your 5% of the population can
> take the
> > > > > > other 95% of us.
> >
> > > > > > Of course, you're probably not in the top 5% anyway, unless you
> married
> > > > > > well.
> >
> > > > > >  ------------------------------
> > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> > > > > > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *bruce
> majors
> > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:38 AM
> > > > > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [The Political Spin Room] Re: Damn straight social
> > > > medicine
> > > > > > works
> >
> > > > > > so then there is no reason for we productive people to just have
> you
> > > > shot
> > > > > > then
> >
> > > > > > since you have announced your intentions to rape, mug, and rob
> >
> > > > > > very good then
> >
> > > > > > your name is on the list for the revolution
> >
> > > > > > do you currently live off your mommie?  is she conscious btw?  do
> you
> > > > just
> > > > > > cash her disability checks for her?
> >
> > > > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >>   I have no sympathy for the very wealthy and could care less if
> > > > they're
> > > > > >> being
> > > > > >> asked to ante up more money.
> >
> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: [email protected]
> <ThePoliticalSpinroom%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >> [mailto:[email protected]
> <ThePoliticalSpinroom%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > >> On Behalf Of gengelhorn
> > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:41 AM
> > > > > >> To: [email protected]<ThePoliticalSpinroom%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >> Subject: [The Political Spin Room] Re: Damn straight social
> medicine
> > > > works
> >
> > > > > >> I don't know if you read the part of my post about my uncle, but
> the
> > > > > >> ironic
> > > > > >> thing is that his life was built upon the back of working class
> > > > people,
> > > > > >> namely my grandparents. My grandpa retired from schilling spice
> > > > company in
> > > > > >> the werehouse department. My grandma owned a beauty salon for 30
> some
> > > > > >> years. My uncle took advantage of this stable working class
> familly
> > > > > >> environement to become the success story he is. But now he
> patronizes
> > > > my
> > > > > >> mothers side of the familly, my mother was the black sheep so to
> > > > speak. We
> > > > > >> have Christmas dinner with them every year and play act like we
> like
> > > > each
> > > > > >> other. But the atmosphere is so phoney it makes me want to puke
> > > > sometimes.
> > > > > >> This is probably a big reason why I have little patience for the
> very
> > > > > >> wealthy. I'm every bit as intelligent as my two cousins, but
> they got
> > > > the
> > > > > >> private school educations, bought and paid for by daddy, while I
> > > > funded my
> > > > > >> own city college education which I would have finished had I not
> > > > > >> discovered
> > > > > >> the stock market. I've been a cl
> > > > > >> ose observer of both sides of the tracks in my time, and I feel
> I have
> > > > a
> > > > > >> unique perspective.
> > > > > >>  --- In [email protected]
> <ThePoliticalSpinroom%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > >> "Ray" <rz...@...> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > The insurance companies are just a bad middleman that provide
> no
> > > > added
> > > > > >> > value to the process.
> >
> > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> > From: [email protected]
> <ThePoliticalSpinroom%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >> > [mailto:[email protected]
> <ThePoliticalSpinroom%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > >> On Behalf Of gengelhorn
> > > > > >> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 7:51 AM
> > > > > >> > To: [email protected]
> <ThePoliticalSpinroom%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [The Political Spin Room] Damn straight social
> medicine
> > > > > >> > works
> >
> > > > > >> > My sisters familly is insured through Kaiser for around a
> $1000 a
> > > > > >> > month for four individuals. She hates the coverage she gets.
> Doctors
> > > > > >> > waste her time referring her to specialist after specialist at
> the
> > > > > >> > additional cost of 20 dollars per visit not to mention
> personal time
> > > > > >> > lost that could be used to either make money or just spend the
> day
> > > > in
> > > > > >> > her garden. The reason her doctors give her the run-around is
> to
> > > > fund
> > > > > >> > the system with more money on top of her monthy payment, and
> to
> > > > > >> > discourage her from getting care. Our system sucks unless your
> very
> > > > > >> > wealthy and can afford top of the line insurance like my
> Uncles
> > > > > >> > familly who are very wealthy. They're in Arizona taking in
> Spring
> > > > > >> > training, and doing some more business I'm sure, as I speak.
> They
> > > > > >> > spend practiaclly half the year traveling while the regular
> working
> > > > > >> > people are left to suffer most of the wet grey winter here in
> > > > Oregon.
> > > > > >> > My uncle is loaded, and I know he could afford more taxes. He
> owns a
> > > > > >> > brand new condo in down town Portlan d and a condo in Lake
> Tahoe for
> > > > > >> > good measure. All this in addition to a 20-30 acre farm in the
> rich
> > > > > >> > suburban community of Wilsonville. He used to live in a
> mansion in a
> > > > > >> > local rich area called Lake Oswego when he was in his prime
> earning
> > > > > >> > years. And as if he needed any more wealth, he stands to
> inherit
> > > > more
> > > > > >> > money and property when my grandma dies. He, his wife, and two
> > > > > >> > childrens famillies are living it up. I'm sure they, along
> with
> > > > other
> > > > > >> > wealthy people like them in this country can afford the extra
> taxes
> > > > so
> > > > > >> > the rest of society can get a good education and health care.
> I
> > > > don't
> > > > > >> > know how he can live with himself knowing that so many poor
> people
> > > > are
> > > > > >> suffering so badly. I think he's been brainwashed by
> conservative
> > > > talking
> > > > > >> heads who've
> > > > > >> > convinced him it's ok to be greedy.
> > > > > >> > --- In [email protected]
> <ThePoliticalSpinroom%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > >> "Ray" <rzorz@> wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > > Every system has it's problems. The US system works ok, not
> great,
> > > > > >> > > if you have coverage. Even then, you get screwed if you
> change
> > > > jobs
> > > > > >> > > and have a pre-existing condition.
> >
> > > > > >> > > The US healthcare system let my sister down. I don't know if
> they
> > > > > >> > > could've saved her anyway, but the reality is with no
> insurance,
> > > > you
> > > > > >> > > have to rely on state run systems like AHCCCHS in Az.
> >
> > > > > >> > > _____
> >
> > > > > >> > > From: [email protected]
> <ThePoliticalSpinroom%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >> > > [mailto:[email protected]
> > > > <ThePoliticalSpinroom%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > > > >> On Behalf Of bruce
> > > > > >> > > majors
> > > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 11:14 PM
> > > > > >> > > To: [email protected]
> <ThePoliticalSpinroom%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [The Political Spin Room] Damn straight social
> > > > medicine
> > > > > >> > > works
> >
> > > > > >> > > no as usual you are lying
> >
> > > > > >> > > infection rates are also higher in British National Health
> Service
> > > > > >> > > hospitals
> >
> > > > > >> > > you have no thinking ability so following the causality is
> beyond
> > > > > >> > > you
> >
> > > > > >> > > a state monopoly system means you cannot vote with your feet
> and
> > > > go
> > > > > >> > > elsewhere, therefore the service providers do not have to
> provide
> > > > > >> > > you with good serice, like clean hospitals
> >
> > > > > >> > > as you have been for years, you remain a moron, a paid
> parrot for
> > > > > >> > > your masters
> >
> > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:08 AM, madtim3bat
> > > > > >> > > <[email protected] <no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > > >> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > >> > > Georgia has been having problems ever since their VA
> hospitals
> > > > were
> > > > > >> > > subcontracted out to the private company with Republican
> political
> > > > > >> > > connections. It has turned into a real
> >
> > ...
> >
> > read more ยป
>  >
>

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