If Bush was any kind of conservative it was a neo-conservative. I
don't think anybody wants to claim those fools. Dick Cheney, BTW, was/
is a member of PNAC. There's no doubt that he is a traitor.

I hope I never called Bush a conservative. He and Cheney hurt the
Republican party almost as much as these all talk and no walk people
like Rush Limbaugh, Michael Medved, and the rest of the people who run
their mouths on the radio just to hear themselves talk. Get rid of
those people and maybe the party can attract real conservatives and
real people who can think for themselves rather than regurgitate what
they hear all day.

I stated my opinion on TARP several times ... that I was against it.
And now we can bail out the banks but we can't bail out the man that
builds cars for a living. It just shows how fucked up this country is.
We need jobs and our oligarchy rulers don't give a shit whether people
have jobs or not.


On May 15, 8:00 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bush was not a conservative.  Many conservatives feel betrayed by not only
> this, but his failure to secure the borders, and his last months in office,
> when he started the TARP....Hell I have a laundry list too!!!
>
> The Patriot Act is literally the remnants of the "Prison Litigation Reform
> Act of 1996" which was gutted, and then repackaged after 9/11.  There are a
> number of provisions of the Patriot Act that I am not opposed to,
> (especially after 9/11) but the restrictions on Americans' liberties, when
> our own President would not secure our borders, is a classic example of how
> President Bush was not a conservative!!
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:53 PM, SgtUSMC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This was one of a laundry list of items I gave which the Dems should
> > do when they got control of congress in 2006. However, they only
> > barely had control and the Republicans were fighting tooth and nail so
> > I can't place much blame on them. I hope they will correct these
> > issues now that they have the power to do so. Failure to repeal or
> > alter the unPatriot Act will fall squarely on the shoulders of the
> > Dems. I want to see them FIX these injustices including warrantless
> > searches, illegal wire-tapping, and torture. This country has stood
> > too long to see its values fail now.
>
> > I just can't fight off the urge to remind you it was the idiot Bushies
> > who favored taking our liberty away.
>
> > On May 15, 7:40 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Sarge,
>
> > > Just to correct the "You" part of your missive:  Most conservatives were
> > > outraged with certain portions of the Patriot Act, as well as the
> > > "Responsible Electronic Surveillance Act" of 2007.  Most conservatives
> > were
> > > unhappy that President Bush endorsed this Bill, without specific language
> > > that protected American citizens, but our outrage should be at the
> > Congress
> > > who actually passed this heinous legislation.  There was language that
> > was
> > > omitted that would have protected American citizens, and been congruous
> > to
> > > the 4th and 5th Amendment to the Constitution, which was specifically
> > left
> > > out of both pieces of legislation.  The result is, that the Justice
> > > Department can run roughshod over any American, if they so choose.
>
> > > I haven't seen the Obama Administration, (who, Obama, Emanuel and Clinton
> > > voted for this legislation!!)  come to advocate the reversal of this
> > > law.....
>
> > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM, SgtUSMC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > We were telling you cons for years this was going to happen. You let
> > > > them get away with wire-tapping just the foreign half (LOL, they never
> > > > heard the US half!!) of a conversation and next thing you know they're
> > > > sitting in your living room with cameras. But you people said it was
> > > > ok if they listen to your phone conversations. So don't complain about
> > > > it, this is exactly what you wanted the government to do.- Hide quoted
> > text -
>
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