Hey Sarge, I understand what you mean when you call Bush a, "Neo-Conservative", but that tag is really incorrect. A "Neo-Con" is a former Democrat, Bill Krystol, Wolfowitz, and a hand full of others are truly Neo-Cons....
I was disillusioned with Bush, and publicly said so....I was his harshest critic, but not for what the far left extremists were critical of him for. Those indiviudals still today, (and there is one member that I was just engaging a few moments ago in Euwetopia, who) "Hate Bush, But Don't Know Why!!" I too have a laundry list of things that Bush and the Bush Administration did, that was not at all conservative, and still today baffles me. His fiscal economic policies made Ronald Reagan turn over in his grave, his lack of respect for the Constitution, (and I don't believe that Bush ever said, "The Constitution is just a God Damned Piece of Paper"!) his failure to secure our borders, while at the same time asking Americans to give up their liberty are just a hand full of issues that I think Bush mismanaged. Knowing the facts, as they are today, and thinking about what we believed at the time of the Iraq Invasion, coupled with the attack on September 11th, 2001, I don't fault Bush for invading Iraq. I think it was a mistake now, but I didn't at the time. I do blame Bush for the way the war was managed. For the first two or three years, I don't think there was a concensus or an organized plan on getting out of Iraq. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:37 PM, SgtUSMC <[email protected]> wrote: > > If Bush was any kind of conservative it was a neo-conservative. I > don't think anybody wants to claim those fools. Dick Cheney, BTW, was/ > is a member of PNAC. There's no doubt that he is a traitor. > > I hope I never called Bush a conservative. He and Cheney hurt the > Republican party almost as much as these all talk and no walk people > like Rush Limbaugh, Michael Medved, and the rest of the people who run > their mouths on the radio just to hear themselves talk. Get rid of > those people and maybe the party can attract real conservatives and > real people who can think for themselves rather than regurgitate what > they hear all day. > > I stated my opinion on TARP several times ... that I was against it. > And now we can bail out the banks but we can't bail out the man that > builds cars for a living. It just shows how fucked up this country is. > We need jobs and our oligarchy rulers don't give a shit whether people > have jobs or not. > > > On May 15, 8:00 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Bush was not a conservative. Many conservatives feel betrayed by not > only > > this, but his failure to secure the borders, and his last months in > office, > > when he started the TARP....Hell I have a laundry list too!!! > > > > The Patriot Act is literally the remnants of the "Prison Litigation > Reform > > Act of 1996" which was gutted, and then repackaged after 9/11. There are > a > > number of provisions of the Patriot Act that I am not opposed to, > > (especially after 9/11) but the restrictions on Americans' liberties, > when > > our own President would not secure our borders, is a classic example of > how > > President Bush was not a conservative!! > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:53 PM, SgtUSMC <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This was one of a laundry list of items I gave which the Dems should > > > do when they got control of congress in 2006. However, they only > > > barely had control and the Republicans were fighting tooth and nail so > > > I can't place much blame on them. I hope they will correct these > > > issues now that they have the power to do so. Failure to repeal or > > > alter the unPatriot Act will fall squarely on the shoulders of the > > > Dems. I want to see them FIX these injustices including warrantless > > > searches, illegal wire-tapping, and torture. This country has stood > > > too long to see its values fail now. > > > > > I just can't fight off the urge to remind you it was the idiot Bushies > > > who favored taking our liberty away. > > > > > On May 15, 7:40 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Sarge, > > > > > > Just to correct the "You" part of your missive: Most conservatives > were > > > > outraged with certain portions of the Patriot Act, as well as the > > > > "Responsible Electronic Surveillance Act" of 2007. Most > conservatives > > > were > > > > unhappy that President Bush endorsed this Bill, without specific > language > > > > that protected American citizens, but our outrage should be at the > > > Congress > > > > who actually passed this heinous legislation. There was language > that > > > was > > > > omitted that would have protected American citizens, and been > congruous > > > to > > > > the 4th and 5th Amendment to the Constitution, which was specifically > > > left > > > > out of both pieces of legislation. The result is, that the Justice > > > > Department can run roughshod over any American, if they so choose. > > > > > > I haven't seen the Obama Administration, (who, Obama, Emanuel and > Clinton > > > > voted for this legislation!!) come to advocate the reversal of this > > > > law..... > > > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM, SgtUSMC <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > We were telling you cons for years this was going to happen. You > let > > > > > them get away with wire-tapping just the foreign half (LOL, they > never > > > > > heard the US half!!) of a conversation and next thing you know > they're > > > > > sitting in your living room with cameras. But you people said it > was > > > > > ok if they listen to your phone conversations. So don't complain > about > > > > > it, this is exactly what you wanted the government to do.- Hide > quoted > > > text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
