KIT, I'm sorry. No one told me I was required to sit here EVERY night and respond to EVERY post.
Going to a Robin Trower concert tomorrow night, do I need a permission slip from one of the monitors to be absent? Will probably go to dinner on The Hill prior to the concert. Sure you lads will be able to get along w/o me for that long? LOL! On Jun 11, 8:40 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Ironic isn't it?? How those from the far left can talk out of both sides of > their mouths? > > Here, the poster had absolutely nothing critical to say last night, when the > same premise was posted to the group. Tonight, he has deemed the concept, > "Rubbish" > > Take a look: > > http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum/browse_thread/thread/20... > > One word....Three syllables: "Hypocrite" > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > bruce, > > > Rubbish. > > > On Jun 11, 1:34 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Mr. Van Brunn's website apparently contained hate speech against McCain, > > > neoconservaticves, and Bush Jr and Bush Sr. > > > > The left's constant attacks on Jews and Israel are responsible for this > > > tragedy. > > > > [image: Newsmax.com] > > > > *Breaking from Newsmax.com* > > > *Obama Breeds Climate of Hate Against Jews* > > > > *By Rabbi Dr. Morton H. Pomerantz* > > > > Our new president did not tell a virulent anti-Semite to travel to the > > U.S. > > > Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington to kill Jews, but he is most > > > certainly creating a climate of hate against us. > > > > It is no coincidence that we are witnessing this level of hatred toward > > Jews > > > as President Barack Obama positions America against the Jewish state. > > > > Just days ago Obama traveled to Cairo, Egypt. It was his second trip in a > > > short time to visit Muslim countries. He sent a clear message by not > > > visiting Israel. > > > > But this was code. > > > > In Cairo, Obama said things that pose a grave danger to Jews in Israel, > > in > > > America and everywhere. > > > > *Story Continues below...* > > > > <http://news.newsmax.com/?K646a1ljWjooqpJQnLyJ7UsveXrktLUAK&https://ww.. > > .> > > > > And if his views are not vigorously opposed they will help create a > > danger > > > as great as that posed by the Nazis to the Jewish people. > > > > Just last week, Obama told his worldwide audience more than 100 million > > > people that the killing of six million Jews during the Holocaust was > > the > > > equivalent of Israel's actions in dealing with the Palestinians. > > > > This remark is incredible on its face, an insult to the six million Jews > > who > > > died as a result of Hitler's genocide and it is a form of revisionism > > that > > > will bode evil for Jews for years to come. > > > > While Obama acknowledged that "six million Jews were killed more than > > the > > > entire Jewish population of Israel today" his discussion about the > > > Holocaust was followed by this statement: "On the other hand, it is also > > > undeniable that the Palestinian people Muslims and Christians have > > > suffered in pursuit of a homeland." > > > > "On the other hand . . . "? > > > > Obama's clever construct comparing the mass genocide of six million Jews > > to > > > the Palestinian struggle will not be lost on the estimated 100 million > > > Muslims who tuned into to hear him. > > > > Perhaps it was not lost on James W. von Brunn, the 88-year-old white > > > supremacist identified as the alleged attacker Wednesday at the Holocaust > > > Museum. He apparently felt that he could easily take retribution against > > the > > > Jews for the atrocities Obama implies they are guilty of. > > > > At first blush Mr. Obama's speech seemed rosy, optimistic one that > > > espoused tolerance and understanding. > > > > If you scratch the surface it is a dangerous document that history will > > view > > > as a turning point for America and Israel one that will lead to > > dangerous > > > times ahead for both Jews and believing Christians. > > > > The immediate danger posed by Obama's speech is in its incredible > > re-writing > > > of the history of Jews, Christians and Muslims from Medieval times to the > > > present. > > > > Obama, continually throughout his speech, talks of Islam's peaceful > > intent. > > > And while there are certainly Koranic verses that support this > > > interpretation, Islam has a long and bloody history of violence against > > > fellow Muslims, Jews and Christians. > > > > Has Obama not heard about the Muslim's violent conquest of the Middle > > East, > > > Spain and half of Western Europe? Was he never taught that the Crusades > > > sought to turn back this Muslim onslaught that demanded subjugated > > > populations convert or die? > > > > In his almost hour-long speech, there is not a single word about Islam's > > > well known and checkered past. > > > > Ironically, the American president offered plenty of references to what > > he > > > sees are America's evils, such as its "colonialism" and history of > > slavery. > > > > "For centuries, black people in America suffered the lash of the whip as > > > slaves and the humiliation of segregation," Obama told his audience, > > citing > > > a litany of American shortcomings. He failed to mention that Arab Muslims > > > were the greatest slave traders in the history of humanity. > > > > According to Obama, Israelis, too, are guilty of wrongdoing, especially > > when > > > it comes to their supposed maltreatment of the Palestinians. > > > > Isn't it odd an American president would go to a foreign country and > > slander > > > his own country and its long-time ally? > > > > At the same time he praises unconditionally a religion and culture > > that > > > has a long history of being antithetical to the very values that have > > made > > > America a great nation? > > > > Mr. Obama even has the unbelievable gall, when talking about the > > treatment > > > of Muslim women, to condemn Western countries for attempting to stop > > Muslim > > > women from using the full facial cover, or hijab. This is a symbol of > > Muslim > > > subjugation of women. > > > > Listen to what Obama said: "Likewise, it is important for Western > > countries > > > to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see > > fit - > > > for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear." > > > > And Obama not only ignores the gross subjugation of women in many Arab > > > societies he does not mention even once the almost total religious > > > intolerance throughout the Muslim world against Christians and Jews. > > > > In his speech, Obama's only plea for Muslim women living in Muslim > > countries > > > is that they should be afforded an education. > > > > How about a discussion of the beheading of Arab women for "crimes" such > > as > > > adultery? How about the malicious treatment of women in Muslim countries > > who > > > choose not to wear the hijab? > > > > Obama insists that Islam has promoted tolerance and that in Islamic > > > societies such ideals have flourished. > > > > Obama claimed that "as a student of history" he understands more than > > most > > > the truth about "civilization's debt to Islam." > > > > He added, "And throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words > > and > > > deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality." > > > > Does he not know that a Jew or Christian would be beheaded in Saudi > > Arabia > > > for practicing their religion today, now, this minute? > > > > Of course, Obama offers not one example of where religious freedom is > > truly > > > tolerated in the Muslim world. Yet, he proudly told his audience that in > > > every state of the union and throughout the U.S. there exist more than > > 1,200 > > > mosques. > > > > But why, Mr. President, is there no Christian Church or Jewish synagogue > > > operating within the borders of Saudi Arabia? Not even one. > > > > Why in many countries, including your host Egypt, Christian churches have > > > suffered vicious and continual persecution? Why is a once vibrant Cairo > > > Jewish community a home for the likes of Maimonides today practically > > > extinct? > > > > Why, dear president, has the ancient Christian community in the West Bank > > > and places like Bethlehem been almost completely wiped out by the modern > > > Muslim onslaught? > > > > "On the other hand," to quote you Mr. President, you avoided mentioning > > some > > > other truths. > > > > Let's start with the Israeli Arabs who can claim one of the highest > > > standards of living in the Arab world. Indeed, they have more rights than > > > Arabs in any Muslim country, their religious freedom is completely > > > protected, and they even vote in free elections. > > > > Tell me what Muslim country matches Israel's record in protecting its > > > minorities? > > > > Even Arabs in the West Bank, during the time of Israeli control, saw > > their > > > standard of living rise dramatically. Today, Arabs there are among the > > best > > > educated in the world, thanks to Israel. > > > > In your revisionist view, Israel has acted to harm these people. But it > > was > > > not Israel that could not abide by United Nations resolutions clearly > > > setting borders for both the state of Israel and an entity that had never > > > existed before named Palestine. > > > > You cleverly omitted any discussion of these facts, or the continual > > attacks > > > against the state of Israel over six decades by its Muslim neighbors. Nor > > is > > > it the Israelis who persecute from time to time the Coptic Christians of > > > Egypt. > > > > No, Mr. President, I do not accept your assertion that you are seeking > > > religious tolerance or that you are seeking to protect Jews. I do not > > accept > > > it because you are inventing a false history to fit your own agenda. > > > > Mr. President, I am deeply disturbed that you would offer such a > > distortion > > > of truth in the hopes of creating a lasting peace. A lasting peace cannot > > be > > > created out of lies, distortions and half truths. > > > > You profess to be a Christian. But you seem more intent on protecting > > > Muslims. In your speech you talked openly of your Muslim heritage, your > > > admiration of their > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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