KIT,

Should be a good show. I'll let you know how it was even though you
are still a hockey-playing, funny talking Yankee.

On Jun 12, 11:28 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Have a great time Holly!!  I haven't seen Robin Trower in years!!
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Hollywood 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > KIT,
>
> > I'm sorry. No one told me I was required to sit here EVERY night and
> > respond to EVERY post.
>
> > Going to a Robin Trower concert tomorrow night, do I need a permission
> > slip from one of the monitors to be absent? Will probably go to dinner
> > on The Hill prior to the concert. Sure you lads will be able to get
> > along w/o me for that long?  LOL!
>
> > On Jun 11, 8:40 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Ironic isn't it??  How those from the far left can talk out of both sides
> > of
> > > their mouths?
>
> > > Here, the poster had absolutely nothing critical to say last night, when
> > the
> > > same premise was posted to the group.  Tonight, he has deemed the
> > concept,
> > > "Rubbish"
>
> > > Take a look:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum/browse_thread/thread/20...
>
> > > One word....Three syllables:  "Hypocrite"
>
> > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > bruce,
>
> > > > Rubbish.
>
> > > > On Jun 11, 1:34 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Mr. Van Brunn's website apparently contained hate speech against
> > McCain,
> > > > > neoconservaticves, and Bush Jr and Bush Sr.
>
> > > > > The left's constant attacks on Jews and Israel are responsible for
> > this
> > > > > tragedy.
>
> > > > >      [image: Newsmax.com]
>
> > > > >   *Breaking from Newsmax.com*
> > > > > *Obama Breeds Climate of Hate Against Jews*
>
> > > > > *By Rabbi Dr. Morton H. Pomerantz*
>
> > > > > Our new president did not tell a virulent anti-Semite to travel to
> > the
> > > > U.S.
> > > > > Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington to kill Jews, but he is most
> > > > > certainly creating a climate of hate against us.
>
> > > > > It is no coincidence that we are witnessing this level of hatred
> > toward
> > > > Jews
> > > > > as President Barack Obama positions America against the Jewish state.
>
> > > > > Just days ago Obama traveled to Cairo, Egypt. It was his second trip
> > in a
> > > > > short time to visit Muslim countries. He sent a clear message by not
> > > > > visiting Israel.
>
> > > > > But this was code.
>
> > > > > In Cairo, Obama said things that pose a grave danger to Jews in
> > Israel,
> > > > in
> > > > > America and everywhere.
>
> > > > > *Story Continues below...*
>
> > > > > <
> >http://news.newsmax.com/?K646a1ljWjooqpJQnLyJ7UsveXrktLUAK&https://ww..
> > > > .>
>
> > > > > And if his views are not vigorously opposed they will help create a
> > > > danger
> > > > > as great as that posed by the Nazis to the Jewish people.
>
> > > > > Just last week, Obama told his worldwide audience   more than 100
> > million
> > > > > people   that the killing of six million Jews during the Holocaust
> > was
> > > > the
> > > > > equivalent of Israel's actions in dealing with the Palestinians.
>
> > > > > This remark is incredible on its face, an insult to the six million
> > Jews
> > > > who
> > > > > died as a result of Hitler's genocide   and it is a form of
> > revisionism
> > > > that
> > > > > will bode evil for Jews for years to come.
>
> > > > > While Obama acknowledged that "six million Jews were killed   more
> > than
> > > > the
> > > > > entire Jewish population of Israel today"   his discussion about the
> > > > > Holocaust was followed by this statement: "On the other hand, it is
> > also
> > > > > undeniable that the Palestinian people   Muslims and Christians
> > have
> > > > > suffered in pursuit of a homeland."
>
> > > > > "On the other hand . . . "?
>
> > > > > Obama's clever construct comparing the mass genocide of six million
> > Jews
> > > > to
> > > > > the Palestinian struggle will not be lost on the estimated 100
> > million
> > > > > Muslims who tuned into to hear him.
>
> > > > > Perhaps it was not lost on James W. von Brunn, the 88-year-old white
> > > > > supremacist identified as the alleged attacker Wednesday at the
> > Holocaust
> > > > > Museum. He apparently felt that he could easily take retribution
> > against
> > > > the
> > > > > Jews for the atrocities Obama implies they are guilty of.
>
> > > > > At first blush Mr. Obama's speech seemed rosy, optimistic   one that
> > > > > espoused tolerance and understanding.
>
> > > > > If you scratch the surface it is a dangerous document that history
> > will
> > > > view
> > > > > as a turning point for America and Israel   one that will lead to
> > > > dangerous
> > > > > times ahead for both Jews and believing Christians.
>
> > > > > The immediate danger posed by Obama's speech is in its incredible
> > > > re-writing
> > > > > of the history of Jews, Christians and Muslims from Medieval times to
> > the
> > > > > present.
>
> > > > > Obama, continually throughout his speech, talks of Islam's peaceful
> > > > intent.
> > > > > And while there are certainly Koranic verses that support this
> > > > > interpretation, Islam has a long and bloody history of violence
> > against
> > > > > fellow Muslims, Jews and Christians.
>
> > > > > Has Obama not heard about the Muslim's violent conquest of the Middle
> > > > East,
> > > > > Spain and half of Western Europe? Was he never taught that the
> > Crusades
> > > > > sought to turn back this Muslim onslaught that demanded subjugated
> > > > > populations convert or die?
>
> > > > > In his almost hour-long speech, there is not a single word about
> > Islam's
> > > > > well known and checkered past.
>
> > > > > Ironically, the American president offered plenty of references to
> > what
> > > > he
> > > > > sees are America's evils, such as its "colonialism" and history of
> > > > slavery.
>
> > > > > "For centuries, black people in America suffered the lash of the whip
> > as
> > > > > slaves and the humiliation of segregation," Obama told his audience,
> > > > citing
> > > > > a litany of American shortcomings. He failed to mention that Arab
> > Muslims
> > > > > were the greatest slave traders in the history of humanity.
>
> > > > > According to Obama, Israelis, too, are guilty of wrongdoing,
> > especially
> > > > when
> > > > > it comes to their supposed maltreatment of the Palestinians.
>
> > > > > Isn't it odd an American president would go to a foreign country and
> > > > slander
> > > > > his own country and its long-time ally?
>
> > > > > At the same time he praises   unconditionally   a religion and
> > culture
> > > > that
> > > > > has a long history of being antithetical to the very values that have
> > > > made
> > > > > America a great nation?
>
> > > > > Mr. Obama even has the unbelievable gall, when talking about the
> > > > treatment
> > > > > of Muslim women, to condemn Western countries for attempting to stop
> > > > Muslim
> > > > > women from using the full facial cover, or hijab. This is a symbol of
> > > > Muslim
> > > > > subjugation of women.
>
> > > > > Listen to what Obama said: "Likewise, it is important for Western
> > > > countries
> > > > > to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they
> > see
> > > > fit -
> > > > > for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear."
>
> > > > > And Obama not only ignores the gross subjugation of women in many
> > Arab
> > > > > societies   he does not mention even once the almost total religious
> > > > > intolerance throughout the Muslim world against Christians and Jews.
>
> > > > > In his speech, Obama's only plea for Muslim women living in Muslim
> > > > countries
> > > > > is that they should be afforded an education.
>
> > > > > How about a discussion of the beheading of Arab women for "crimes"
> > such
> > > > as
> > > > > adultery? How about the malicious treatment of women in Muslim
> > countries
> > > > who
> > > > > choose not to wear the hijab?
>
> > > > > Obama insists that Islam has promoted tolerance and that in Islamic
> > > > > societies such ideals have flourished.
>
> > > > > Obama claimed that "as a student of history" he understands more than
> > > > most
> > > > > the truth about "civilization's debt to Islam."
>
> > > > > He added, "And throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through
> > words
> > > > and
> > > > > deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality."
>
> > > > > Does he not know that a Jew or Christian would be beheaded in Saudi
> > > > Arabia
> > > > > for practicing their religion today, now, this minute?
>
> > > > > Of course, Obama offers not one example of where religious freedom is
> > > > truly
> > > > > tolerated in the Muslim world. Yet, he proudly told his audience that
> > in
> > > > > every state of the union and throughout the U.S. there exist more
> > than
> > > > 1,200
> > > > > mosques.
>
> > > > > But why, Mr. President, is there no Christian Church or Jewish
> > synagogue
> > > > > operating within the borders of Saudi Arabia? Not even one.
>
> > > > > Why in many countries, including your host Egypt, Christian churches
> > have
> > > > > suffered vicious and continual persecution? Why is a once vibrant
> > Cairo
> > > > > Jewish community   a home for the likes of Maimonides   today
> > practically
> > > > > extinct?
>
> > > > > Why, dear president, has the ancient Christian community in the West
> > Bank
> > > > > and places like Bethlehem been almost completely wiped out by the
> > modern
> > > > > Muslim onslaught?
>
> > > > > "On the other hand," to quote you Mr. President, you avoided
> > mentioning
> > > > some
> > > > > other truths.
>
> > > > > Let's start with the Israeli Arabs who can claim one of the highest
> > > > > standards of living in the Arab world. Indeed, they have more rights
> > than
> > > > > Arabs in any Muslim country, their religious freedom is completely
> > > > > protected, and they even vote in free elections.
>
> > > > > Tell me what Muslim country matches Israel's record in protecting its
> > > > > minorities?
>
> > > > > Even Arabs
>
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