Have a great time Holly!! I haven't seen Robin Trower in years!!
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > KIT, > > I'm sorry. No one told me I was required to sit here EVERY night and > respond to EVERY post. > > Going to a Robin Trower concert tomorrow night, do I need a permission > slip from one of the monitors to be absent? Will probably go to dinner > on The Hill prior to the concert. Sure you lads will be able to get > along w/o me for that long? LOL! > > On Jun 11, 8:40 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ironic isn't it?? How those from the far left can talk out of both sides > of > > their mouths? > > > > Here, the poster had absolutely nothing critical to say last night, when > the > > same premise was posted to the group. Tonight, he has deemed the > concept, > > "Rubbish" > > > > Take a look: > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum/browse_thread/thread/20... > > > > One word....Three syllables: "Hypocrite" > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hollywood <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce, > > > > > Rubbish. > > > > > On Jun 11, 1:34 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Mr. Van Brunn's website apparently contained hate speech against > McCain, > > > > neoconservaticves, and Bush Jr and Bush Sr. > > > > > > The left's constant attacks on Jews and Israel are responsible for > this > > > > tragedy. > > > > > > [image: Newsmax.com] > > > > > > *Breaking from Newsmax.com* > > > > *Obama Breeds Climate of Hate Against Jews* > > > > > > *By Rabbi Dr. Morton H. Pomerantz* > > > > > > Our new president did not tell a virulent anti-Semite to travel to > the > > > U.S. > > > > Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington to kill Jews, but he is most > > > > certainly creating a climate of hate against us. > > > > > > It is no coincidence that we are witnessing this level of hatred > toward > > > Jews > > > > as President Barack Obama positions America against the Jewish state. > > > > > > Just days ago Obama traveled to Cairo, Egypt. It was his second trip > in a > > > > short time to visit Muslim countries. He sent a clear message by not > > > > visiting Israel. > > > > > > But this was code. > > > > > > In Cairo, Obama said things that pose a grave danger to Jews in > Israel, > > > in > > > > America and everywhere. > > > > > > *Story Continues below...* > > > > > > < > http://news.newsmax.com/?K646a1ljWjooqpJQnLyJ7UsveXrktLUAK&https://ww.. > > > .> > > > > > > And if his views are not vigorously opposed they will help create a > > > danger > > > > as great as that posed by the Nazis to the Jewish people. > > > > > > Just last week, Obama told his worldwide audience more than 100 > million > > > > people that the killing of six million Jews during the Holocaust > was > > > the > > > > equivalent of Israel's actions in dealing with the Palestinians. > > > > > > This remark is incredible on its face, an insult to the six million > Jews > > > who > > > > died as a result of Hitler's genocide and it is a form of > revisionism > > > that > > > > will bode evil for Jews for years to come. > > > > > > While Obama acknowledged that "six million Jews were killed more > than > > > the > > > > entire Jewish population of Israel today" his discussion about the > > > > Holocaust was followed by this statement: "On the other hand, it is > also > > > > undeniable that the Palestinian people Muslims and Christians > have > > > > suffered in pursuit of a homeland." > > > > > > "On the other hand . . . "? > > > > > > Obama's clever construct comparing the mass genocide of six million > Jews > > > to > > > > the Palestinian struggle will not be lost on the estimated 100 > million > > > > Muslims who tuned into to hear him. > > > > > > Perhaps it was not lost on James W. von Brunn, the 88-year-old white > > > > supremacist identified as the alleged attacker Wednesday at the > Holocaust > > > > Museum. He apparently felt that he could easily take retribution > against > > > the > > > > Jews for the atrocities Obama implies they are guilty of. > > > > > > At first blush Mr. Obama's speech seemed rosy, optimistic one that > > > > espoused tolerance and understanding. > > > > > > If you scratch the surface it is a dangerous document that history > will > > > view > > > > as a turning point for America and Israel one that will lead to > > > dangerous > > > > times ahead for both Jews and believing Christians. > > > > > > The immediate danger posed by Obama's speech is in its incredible > > > re-writing > > > > of the history of Jews, Christians and Muslims from Medieval times to > the > > > > present. > > > > > > Obama, continually throughout his speech, talks of Islam's peaceful > > > intent. > > > > And while there are certainly Koranic verses that support this > > > > interpretation, Islam has a long and bloody history of violence > against > > > > fellow Muslims, Jews and Christians. > > > > > > Has Obama not heard about the Muslim's violent conquest of the Middle > > > East, > > > > Spain and half of Western Europe? Was he never taught that the > Crusades > > > > sought to turn back this Muslim onslaught that demanded subjugated > > > > populations convert or die? > > > > > > In his almost hour-long speech, there is not a single word about > Islam's > > > > well known and checkered past. > > > > > > Ironically, the American president offered plenty of references to > what > > > he > > > > sees are America's evils, such as its "colonialism" and history of > > > slavery. > > > > > > "For centuries, black people in America suffered the lash of the whip > as > > > > slaves and the humiliation of segregation," Obama told his audience, > > > citing > > > > a litany of American shortcomings. He failed to mention that Arab > Muslims > > > > were the greatest slave traders in the history of humanity. > > > > > > According to Obama, Israelis, too, are guilty of wrongdoing, > especially > > > when > > > > it comes to their supposed maltreatment of the Palestinians. > > > > > > Isn't it odd an American president would go to a foreign country and > > > slander > > > > his own country and its long-time ally? > > > > > > At the same time he praises unconditionally a religion and > culture > > > that > > > > has a long history of being antithetical to the very values that have > > > made > > > > America a great nation? > > > > > > Mr. Obama even has the unbelievable gall, when talking about the > > > treatment > > > > of Muslim women, to condemn Western countries for attempting to stop > > > Muslim > > > > women from using the full facial cover, or hijab. This is a symbol of > > > Muslim > > > > subjugation of women. > > > > > > Listen to what Obama said: "Likewise, it is important for Western > > > countries > > > > to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they > see > > > fit - > > > > for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear." > > > > > > And Obama not only ignores the gross subjugation of women in many > Arab > > > > societies he does not mention even once the almost total religious > > > > intolerance throughout the Muslim world against Christians and Jews. > > > > > > In his speech, Obama's only plea for Muslim women living in Muslim > > > countries > > > > is that they should be afforded an education. > > > > > > How about a discussion of the beheading of Arab women for "crimes" > such > > > as > > > > adultery? How about the malicious treatment of women in Muslim > countries > > > who > > > > choose not to wear the hijab? > > > > > > Obama insists that Islam has promoted tolerance and that in Islamic > > > > societies such ideals have flourished. > > > > > > Obama claimed that "as a student of history" he understands more than > > > most > > > > the truth about "civilization's debt to Islam." > > > > > > He added, "And throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through > words > > > and > > > > deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality." > > > > > > Does he not know that a Jew or Christian would be beheaded in Saudi > > > Arabia > > > > for practicing their religion today, now, this minute? > > > > > > Of course, Obama offers not one example of where religious freedom is > > > truly > > > > tolerated in the Muslim world. Yet, he proudly told his audience that > in > > > > every state of the union and throughout the U.S. there exist more > than > > > 1,200 > > > > mosques. > > > > > > But why, Mr. President, is there no Christian Church or Jewish > synagogue > > > > operating within the borders of Saudi Arabia? Not even one. > > > > > > Why in many countries, including your host Egypt, Christian churches > have > > > > suffered vicious and continual persecution? Why is a once vibrant > Cairo > > > > Jewish community a home for the likes of Maimonides today > practically > > > > extinct? > > > > > > Why, dear president, has the ancient Christian community in the West > Bank > > > > and places like Bethlehem been almost completely wiped out by the > modern > > > > Muslim onslaught? > > > > > > "On the other hand," to quote you Mr. President, you avoided > mentioning > > > some > > > > other truths. > > > > > > Let's start with the Israeli Arabs who can claim one of the highest > > > > standards of living in the Arab world. Indeed, they have more rights > than > > > > Arabs in any Muslim country, their religious freedom is completely > > > > protected, and they even vote in free elections. > > > > > > Tell me what Muslim country matches Israel's record in protecting its > > > > minorities? > > > > > > Even Arabs in the West Bank, during the time of Israeli control, saw > > > their > > > > standard of living rise dramatically. Today, Arabs there are among > the > > > best > > > > educated in the world, thanks to Israel. > > > > > > In your revisionist view, Israel has acted to harm these people. But > it > > > was > > > > not Israel that could not abide by United Nations resolutions clearly > > > > setting borders for both the state of Israel and an entity that had > never > > > > existed before named Palestine. > > > > > > You cleverly omitted any discussion of these facts, or the continual > > > attacks > > > > against the state of Israel over six decades by its Muslim neighbors. > Nor > > > is > > > > it the Israelis who persecute from time to time the Coptic Christians > of > > > > Egypt. > > > > > > No, Mr. President, I do not accept your assertion that you are > seeking > > > > religious tolerance or that you are seeking to protect Jews. I do not > > > accept > > > > it because you are inventing a false history to fit your own agenda. > > > > > > Mr. President, I am deeply disturbed that you would offer such a > > > distortion > > > > of truth in the hopes of creating a lasting peace. A lasting peace > cannot > > > be > > > > created out of lies, distortions and half truths. > > > > > > You profess to be a Christian. But you seem more intent on protecting > > > > Muslims. In your speech you talked openly of your Muslim heritage, > your > > > > admiration of their > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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