Again, read the report Sean. Go back and re-read what the focus of this discussion was about. Try and stay on point.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:46 PM, VT VirtualTruth <[email protected]>wrote: > > LMAO. maybe YOU should read your post again, > because not only did you not understand the article > but you seem to think my rebuttals to your erroneous > facts did not point out you were WRONG! > > You do realize everyone else isn't as dumb as you and > can see for themselves just how stupid you are? > > The yearly figure of 1 trillion dollars is NOT Kennedys > or any one elses NEW Health Care plan, it is the cost > of ALL plans including Medicare, and Medicaid! > > GAWD you are DUMB! > > On Jun 24, 3:38 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sugarshack, > > > > Like many Moonbats, it usually takes you several times to comprehend a > > point, much less a news article. In this case, I refer you back to the > > Congressional Budget Office's report, of which I provided the link > > earlier. You noted a part of the article, now quit cherry picking, and > try > > to comprehend what our own government is trying to tell the Moonbat > > community!! > > > > Here's the link one more time: > > > > http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/103xx/doc10311/06-16-ConradLetter.htm > > > > I suggest that you read my initial post also Sean. Clearly, you haven't > a > > clue about what it is that you are talking about. > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:31 PM, VT VirtualTruth > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Gee once again Keith is no where to be found! > > > > > Once again Keith gets OWNED by the Truth! > > > > > On Jun 24, 10:25 am, VT VirtualTruth <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > Dumb Ass Keith in Tampa if you had READ your OWN post.... > > > > > > TOTAL COSTS WITH EXISTING HEALTHCARE PROGRAMS... > > > > The federal government’s financing of health care will total more > than > > > > $1 trillion in 2009, all told. Federal outlays for Medicare and > > > > Medicaid are about $700 billion; tax preferences for health care > > > > (especially the exclusion of premiums for employment-based health > > > > insurance from income and payroll taxes) amount to more than $250 > > > > billion; and the federal government also pays for veterans’ health > > > > care, public health initiatives, and other health programs. Already, > > > > those direct and indirect payments for health care account for nearly > > > > 60 percent of total health expenditures for the nation. > > > > > > WILL THIS REDUCE COSTS?....... > > > > Therefore, changes in government policy have the potential to yield > > > > large reductions in both national health expenditures and federal > > > > health care spending without harming health. Moreover, many experts > > > > agree on some general directions in which the government’s health > > > > policies should move—typically involving changes in the information > > > > and incentives that doctors and patients have when making decisions > > > > about health care. > > > > Bundle Payments to Hospitals and Other Providers > > > > The Commonwealth Fund estimated that this proposal would reduce > > > > federal spending by over $200 billion between 2010 and 2020. > > > > > > Finally STUPID the cost of the plan is 1.6 Trillion over TEN YEARS! > > > > > > On Jun 24, 8:49 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Uhm......Sugarshack, > > > > > > > I don't know why I bother, I guess it is because I like you, but > like > > > any > > > > > child, sometimes there comes a time when I must take your pants > down > > > and > > > > > spank you. > > > > > > > From the Congressional Budget Office: > > > > > > > "The federal government’s financing of health care will total more > > > than $1 > > > > > trillion in 2009, " > > > > > > >http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/103xx/doc10311/06-16-ConradLetter.htm > > > > > > > As usual, you are ignoring the facts, and like most Moonbats, you > seem > > > to > > > > > want to cherry pick. Even Kennedy's plan will cost over one > trillion > > > > > initially. You might want to look at the numbers, and here is an > > > article > > > > > that frames the actual costs a little better. > > > > > > > Can you say, "One Point Six Trillion"??? (Just in the first year, > and > > > this > > > > > doesn't cover everyone!!!) > > > > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/18/AR200. > > > .. > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:06 AM, VT VirtualTruth > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > Keith, your 99% sure is usually 100% wrong, > > > > > > It is 10 years. > > > > > > > >http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre55e74c-us-usa-healthcare-cbo/ > > > > > > > > On Jun 23, 7:09 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Sean, > > > > > > > > > I don't have the numbers in front of me, and I don't have time > to > > > go and > > > > > > > look for them now, but I am 99 percent positive, that the > Democrat > > > plan, > > > > > > > (all versions of it) were not 1 trillion in ten years. The > plan(s) > > > were > > > > > > one > > > > > > > trillion in one year, like by 2010, and that was using low ball > > > numbers. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:57 PM, VT VirtualTruth > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > So let's do the math, $250 a month for basic > > > > > > > > high deductible health insurance. That comes to > > > > > > > > $3000 a year per person. > > > > > > > > > > 40,000,000 Uninsured people. > > > > > > > > > > Total cost $120,000,000,000 a year. > > > > > > > > or 1.2 Trillion in 10 years, > > > > > > > > > > The No-Publicans were against The Democrat health > > > > > > > > plan because in 10 years it would cost over $1 Trillion. > > > > > > > > > > I am using LOW numbers by the way.....My insurance > > > > > > > > costs $1400 a month for a family with dental. > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 23, 5:20 pm, snarky <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > If so, what are your thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > >http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123931859150606821.html > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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