Travis,

So?

On Jun 25, 10:36 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2-year old doesn't know if it is a boy or girl.
>
> From: *Travis*
> Date: Wed, Jun 24, 2009
> Subject:  Sweden is Laughing-stock
>
>   1. Sweden's welfare state, supported by tax rates of 60+ percent on those
> of its citizens who actually work, has halted all economic innovation 2. Its
> immigration policies, coupled with the extremely low fertility rates of
> Swedish women, have begun to transform drastically Swedish society and
> culture 3. Immigrant crime rates, particularly in Sweden's third-largest
> city, Malmö, are staggeringly high. 
> See:http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-in-sweden-a...4.
> But it's good to see that folks like those described below are raising their
> children in ways that will help address such public crises   Swedish parents
> keep 2-year-old's gender secret
>
> Published: 23 Jun 09 16:24 CET
> Online:http://www.thelocal.se/20232/20090623/
>
> Dictionary tool Double click on a word to get a translation
>
> http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=20232&print=true
>
> Meet Pop, a two-and-a-half-year-old Swedish child whose parents are refusing
> to say whether the apple of their eye is a boy or a girl.
> Pop’s parents, both 24, made a decision when their baby was born to keep
> Pop’s sex a secret. Aside from a select few – those who have changed the
> child’s diaper – nobody knows Pop’s gender; if anyone enquires, Pop’s
> parents simply say they don’t disclose this information.
>
> In an interview with newspaper Svenska Dagbladet in March, the parents were
> quoted saying their decision was rooted in the feminist philosophy that
> gender is a social construction.
>
> “We want Pop to grow up more freely and avoid being forced into a specific
> gender mould from the outset,” Pop’s mother said. “It's cruel to bring a
> child into the world with a blue or pink stamp on their forehead.”
>
> The child's parents said so long as they keep Pop’s gender a secret, he or
> she will be able to avoid preconceived notions of how people should be
> treated if male or female.
>
> Pop's wardrobe includes everything from dresses to trousers and Pop's
> hairstyle changes on a regular basis. And Pop usually decides how Pop is
> going to dress on a given morning.
>
> Although Pop knows that there are physical differences between a boy and a
> girl, Pop's parents never use personal pronouns when referring to the child
> – they just say Pop.
>
> "I believe that the self-confidence and personality that Pop has shaped will
> remain for a lifetime," said Pop's mother.
>
> But while Pop’s parents say they have received supportive feedback from many
> of their peers, not everyone agrees that their chosen course of action will
> have a positive outcome.
>
> “Ignoring children's natures simply doesn’t work,” says Susan Pinker, a
> psychologist and newspaper columnist from Toronto, Canada, who wrote the
> book The Sexual Paradox, which focuses on sex differences in the workplace.
>
> “Child-rearing should not be about providing an opportunity to prove an
> ideological point, but about responding to each child’s needs as an
> individual,” Pinker tells The Local.
>
> “It’s unlikely that they’ll be able to keep this a secret for long. Children
> are curious about their own identity, and are likely to gravitate towards
> others of the same sex during free play time in early childhood.”
>
> Pinker says there are many ways that males and females differ from birth;
> even if gender is kept ‘secret,’ prenatal hormones developed in the second
> trimester of pregnancy already alter the way the child behaves and feels.
>
> She says once children can speak, males tell aggressive stories 87 per cent
> of the time, while females only 17 per cent. In a study, children aged two
> to four were given a task to work together for a reward, and boys used
> physical tactics 50 times more than girls, she says.
>
> But Swedish gender equality consultant Kristina Henkel says Pop’s parents'
> experiment might have positive results.
>
> “If the parents are doing this because they want to create a discussion with
> other adults about why gender is important, then I think they can make a
> point of it,” Henkel says in a telephone interview with The Local.
>
> “You can talk about there being a non-stereotypical gender; if you are a
> girl you can do the same as a boy, and if you’re a boy you can do the same
> as a girl.”
>
> Henkel also says a child's sex can deeply affect how they are treated
> growing up, and distract them from simply being a human being.
>
> “If the child is dressed up as a girl or boy, it affects them because people
> see and treat them in a more gender-typical way,” Henkel explains.
>
> “Girls are told they are cute in their dresses, and boys are told they are
> cool with their car toys. But if you give them no gender they will be seen
> more as a human or not a stereotype as a boy or girl.”
>
> She says that without these gender stereotypes, children can build character
> as individuals, not hindered by preconceived notions of what they should be
> as males or females.
>
> “I think that can make these kids stronger,” Henkel says.
>
> Anna Nordenström, a paediatric endocrinologist at Karolinska Institutet,
> says it’s hard to know what effects the parents' decision will have on Pop.
>
> “It will affect the child, but it’s hard to say if it will hurt the child,”
> says Nordenström, who studies hormonal influences on gender development.
>
> “I don’t know what they are trying to achieve. It’s going to make the child
> different, make them very special.”
>
> She says if Pop is still ‘genderless’ by the time he or she starts school,
> Pop will certainly receive a lot of attention from classmates.
>
> “We don’t know exactly what determines sexual identity, but it’s not only
> sexual upbringing,” says Nordenström. “Gender-typical behaviour, sexual
> preferences and sexual identity usually go together. There are hormonal and
> other influences that we don’t know that will determine the gender of the
> child.”
>
> Both Nordenström and Pinker refer to a controversial case from 1967 when a
> circumcision left one of two twin brothers without a penis. Dr. John Money,
> who asserted that gender was learned rather than innate, convinced the
> parents to raise 'David' as 'Brenda' and the child had cosmetic genitalia
> reconstruction surgery.
>
> She was raised as a female, with girls’ clothes, games and codes of
> behaviour. The parents never told Brenda the secret until she was a teenager
> and rebelled against femininity. She then started receiving testosterone
> injections and underwent another genetic reconstruction process to become
> David again. David Reimer denounced the experiment as a crushing failure
> before committing suicide at the age of 38.
>
> “I don’t think that trying to keep a child’s sex a secret will fool anyone,
> nor do I think it’s wise or ethical,” says Pinker. “As with any family
> secret, when we try to keep an elemental truth from children, it usually
> blows up in the parent’s face, via psychosomatic illness or rebellious
> behaviour.”
>
> But with a second child on the way, Pop's parents have no plans to change
> what they see as a winning formula. As for Pop, they say they will only
> reveal the child's sex when Pop thinks it's time.
>
> *Footnote: Pop is not the child's real name but is the name used in Svenska
> Dagbladet's interview with the child's parents from March 6th.*
>
> Lydia Parafianowicz ([email protected])
>
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