Name one!! Frederick The Moderate wrote: > I didn't bother to read the post (I would prefer to read original > thoughts from forum members) but the gist is obvious by the title. > It's only been a very short time but think Obama is keeping many of > his promises. > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:32 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Strange to see the Miami Herald talk about their president fulfilling >> his promises. What planet are they from that they expect a grad of the >> Chicago School of Politics to do what he promised to do. Those of us >> who did not support him asked the question at the time but the media >> never saw fit to examine the damaged goods they supported. Now we are >> stuck with this idiot. >> >> Posted on Monday, 07.06.09 >> >> * >> Recommend >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#none> >> (0) >> * share >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#> >> * email >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-emailform/story/11287...> >> * print >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-print/story/1128722.html> >> * comment >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#comment> >> * reprint <http://www.miamiherald.com/reprints/> >> >> FARK it! >> <http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/farkit.pl?u=http://www.miamiherald.com/o...> >> >> Send to AIM >> <aim:goim?Message=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/1128722.html> >> Seed Newsvine <javascript:void(0)> >> Add to Reddit >> <http://reddit.com/submit?url=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/112...> >> >> Add to Google Bookmarks >> <http://www.google.com/bookmarks/mark?op=add&bkmk=http://www.miamihera...> >> >> Thumb this up at StumbleUpon. <http://www.stumbleupon.com/submit> >> Publish this post to LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle> >> Add to del.icio.us <http://del.icio.us/post> >> <http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=the_miami_herald&guid=http%3A...> >> >> Post to MySpace <http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=postto> >> Add to facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http://www.miamiherald.com/opini...> >> >> DIGG This >> <http://digg.com/submit?url=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/11287...> >> >> Bookmark this post on Twitter. <http://twitter.com/home> >> >> President Obama should do what he says about secrecy >> >> OUR OPINION: President Obama promised transparency but often sides >> with secrecy >> >> *A*s a candidate for president, Sen. Barack Obama vowed to run an open >> government. He reiterated that pledge on Inauguration Day: >> ''Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this >> presidency,'' he said. >> >> Nearly six months later, advocates of open government are still waiting >> for the president to fulfill this promise. Compared to the Bush >> presidency, this administration is doing better. But what President >> Obama has /done/, compared to what he /said/ he would do, are two >> different things, thanks in part to the unequivocal language he used and >> the expections he raised. >> >> *Ended Ashcroft order* >> >> The president deserves credit for taking action on his first day in >> office to rescind a 2001 memo by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft >> giving agencies broad legal cover to reject public disclosure requests. >> He also revoked an executive order signed by former President George W. >> Bush in 2001 that limited release of former presidents' records, and >> replaced it with new language aimed at more transparency. >> >> Ending unnecessary secrecy, however, has apparently proven tougher than >> the president expected. He has come down on the side of keeping the >> public uninformed in a variety of decisions that, as a candidate, he >> might well have scorned. >> >> One of the most troubling instances occurred last month, involving White >> House refusal to turn over White House visitor logs by coal industry >> executives. An organization called Citizens for Responsibility and >> Ethics in Washington has filed a lawsuit, saying the Obama White House >> is essentially embracing the Bush administration position on the secrecy >> of the comings and goings of visitors to the executive mansion. >> >> This makes for a murky transparency policy. >> >> White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said lawyers were reviewing the >> policy regarding the release of visitor logs. They should start by >> reading the well-publicized ''memorandum of transparency'' that >> President Obama signed on his first day in office. >> >> The president said open government was a way to hold government >> accountable, ``so that the American people can know exactly what >> decisions are being made, how they're being made, and whether their >> interests are being well served.'' >> >> Nice words, but if the White House doesn't stop hiding the logs, no one >> else in government can be expected to take the disclosure policy seriously. >> >> The president's record of open government has fallen short of >> fulfillment most often on issues involving national security. >> >> The White House agreed to release memorandums detailing the alleged >> torture of detainees, sparking criticism from former Bush administration >> officials. But in other instances the president has either embraced Mr. >> Bush's positions or changed his mind about following through on promises >> of disclosure. >> >> At first, the White House said it would support the release of photos of >> detainee abuse but later reversed course and decided to leave it up to >> the courts. Concerns about secrecy and repercussions are valid, but >> passing the buck to the courts on this issue does not add to the >> president's credibility regarding disclosure. >> >> The White House has also continued the Bush administration's objections >> to the release of an interview that former Vice President Dick Cheney >> gave to the FBI during its investigation of the leak of CIA agent >> Valerie Plame's identity. Again emulating the Bush administration, the >> current occupant of the White House has moved to dismiss lawsuits >> seeking White House e-mails from the past several years. >> >> *Using legal tactic* >> >> Mr. Obama's administration has not hesitated to fight disclosure in >> court, either. In May, it supported the ''state secrecy'' doctrine in a >> case involving a lawsuit against a government contractor by five victims >> of ``extraordinary rendition.'' >> >> This is the legal tactic that says the government can prevent the courts >> from hearing claims by those who say they were hurt by federal actions >> -- because the need for state secrecy requires it. >> >> That is exactly the same position the Bush administration took, a policy >> that allows government to evade the accountability that Mr. Obama vowed >> to champion. In turning down the administration's appeal, a judge noted >> that the policy is often a convenient way for governments to hide >> politically embarrassing information. >> >> The administration claims it has valid reasons in each of these >> instances to opt for secrecy, but the pattern is both disappointing and >> a far cry from what Mr. Obama led voters to believe during the campaign. >> >> The government has a legitimate right to protect certain information. >> But the record indicates that given a choice between disclosure and >> secrecy, Mr. Obama is falling into the appalling habit of hiding the facts. >> >> * recommend >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#> >> * email >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-emailform/story/11287...> >> * print >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-print/story/1128722.html> >> * share >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#> >> * Buzz up! >> >> <http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=the_miami_herald&guid=http%3A...> >> >> FARK it! >> <http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/farkit.pl?u=http://www.miamiherald.com/o...> >> >> Send to AIM >> <aim:goim?Message=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/1128722.html> >> Seed Newsvine <javascript:void(0)> >> Add to Reddit >> <http://reddit.com/submit?url=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/112...> >> >> Add to Google Bookmarks >> <http://www.google.com/bookmarks/mark?op=add&bkmk=http://www.miamihera...> >> >> Thumb this up at StumbleUpon. <http://www.stumbleupon.com/submit> >> Publish this post to LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle> >> Add to del.icio.us <http://del.icio.us/post> >> <http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=the_miami_herald&guid=http%3A...> >> >> Post to MySpace <http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=postto> >> Add to facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http://www.miamiherald.com/opini...> >> >> DIGG This >> <http://digg.com/submit?url=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/11287...> >> >> Bookmark this post on Twitter. <http://twitter.com/home> >> >> Join the discussion >> >> The Miami Herald is pleased to provide this opportunity to share >> information, experiences and observations about what's in the news. Some >> of the comments may be reprinted elsewhere in the site or in the >> newspaper. We encourage lively, open debate on the issues of the day, >> and ask that you refrain from profanity, hate speech, personal comments >> and remarks that are off point. In order to post comments, you must be a >> registered user of MiamiHerald.com. Your username will show along with >> the comments you post. Thank you for taking the time to offer your >> thoughts. >> >> Comments >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#Comm...> >> (4) >> <http://www.pluck.com> >> You must be logged in to leave a comment. Login >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/static/insite/login.html?goto=http://www.m...> >> | Register >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/reg-bin/int.cgi?mode=register&goto=http://...> >> >> Comments: 4 Showing: >> >> * [[email protected]@] >> psd_retiree >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/personas?plckUserId=16438a567cd30f99473829...> >> wrote on 07/06/2009 10:10:47 AM: >> >> And PLEASE don't overlook his still secret "Original" birth >> certificate! >> >> Reply to this Comment >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#user...> >> Recommend <javascript: void(0)> (0) Report abuse <javascript: >> void(0)> >> * [[email protected]@] >> scracker >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/personas?plckUserId=16438a567cd30f99473829...> >> wrote on 07/06/2009 10:07:40 AM: >> >> "Change you can believe in." Riiight. >> . Clearly, "I" was never one of the "You" Mr. Obama had in mind. >> >> "The audacity of hope." Indeed. >> . More like "The dashing of hope." >> >> Thanks for your editorial. I agree with your criticism -- but >> would go farther. >> >> Geo. Hughan >> >> Reply to this Comment >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#user...> >> Recommend <javascript: void(0)> (0) Report abuse <javascript: >> void(0)> >> * [[email protected]@] >> DavidBenAriel >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/personas?plckUserId=16438a567cd30f99473829...> >> wrote on 07/06/2009 09:42:32 AM: >> >> "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?" Why did Obama originally say on >> his website that he? was "governed" by the British Nationality >> Act? Why does he pay lawyers to work hard to keep America in the >> dark? Why does he refuse to open up? What's he hiding? >> >> Demand your representatives get long overdue, honest answers to >> these serious questions. >> >> America can't afford to wait! >> >> Reply to this Comment >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#user...> >> Recommend <javascript: void(0)> (0) Report abuse <javascript: >> void(0)> >> * [[email protected]@] >> imk816 >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/personas?plckUserId=16438a567cd30f99473829...> >> wrote on 07/06/2009 05:37:35 AM: >> >> Did anyone really believe that a distinguished graduate of the >> Chicago School of Politics would actually KEEP his campaign >> promises? If so, they are not only naive, they live in a dream >> world far from history. Then again, what should we expect from an >> executive branch that fully subscribes to pay for play when it >> comes to its supporters, a legislative branch that doesn't bother >> to even read humongous spending plans before enacting them, and a >> judicial branch that all too often forgets that its job is to >> determine whether the actions of the other two branches actually >> adhere to our fundamental law called the Constitution. Perhaps >> Pravda's editors need to undertake a serious study of the reality >> of American Government. >> >> Reply to this Comment >> >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#user...> >> Recommend <javascript: void(0)> (1) Report abuse <javascript: >> void(0)> >> >> More comments on this story: 1 >> # [[email protected]@] >> @Nyx.AuthorDisplayName@ >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/[email protected]@&[email protected]@> >> wrote on @Nyx.PostedAtTime@: >> @Nyx.repliedToText@ >> >> @Nyx.replyAnswerText@ >> >> Reply to this Comment >> <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#user...> >> @Nyx.Recommender@ @Nyx.AbuseReporter@ >> > > > >
--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
