that's pretty much meaningless gibberish our current insurance is government insurance already given how regulated it is
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Frederick The Moderate < [email protected]> wrote: > > 1. He would, as quickly as possible, take every possible step to > reform healthcare and offer a government-sponsored alternative to > private insurance. > > On Jul 6, 11:24 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > yes what was it > > > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, dick thompson <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > Name one!! > > > > > Frederick The Moderate wrote: > > > > > I didn't bother to read the post (I would prefer to read original > > > thoughts from forum members) but the gist is obvious by the title. > > > It's only been a very short time but think Obama is keeping many of > > > his promises. > > > > > On Jul 6, 7:32 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Strange to see the Miami Herald talk about their president fulfilling > > > his promises. What planet are they from that they expect a grad of the > > > Chicago School of Politics to do what he promised to do. Those of us > > > who did not support him asked the question at the time but the media > > > never saw fit to examine the damaged goods they supported. Now we are > > > stuck with this idiot. > > > > > Posted on Monday, 07.06.09 > > > > > * > > > Recommend > > > < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#none> < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#none> > > > (0) > > > * share > > > < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#> < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#> > > > * email > > > < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-emailform/story/11287...> > <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-emailform/story/11287...> > > > * print > > > < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-print/story/1128722.html> > <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-print/story/1128722.html> > > > * comment > > > < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#comment> > <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#comment> > > > * reprint <http://www.miamiherald.com/reprints/> < > http://www.miamiherald.com/reprints/> > > > > > FARK it!< > http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/farkit.pl?u=http://www.miamiherald.com/o...> > <http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/farkit.pl?u=http://www.miamiherald.com/o...> > > > > > Send to AIM<aim:goim?Message= > http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/1128722.html> > > > Seed Newsvine <javascript:void(0)> > > > Add to Reddit< > http://reddit.com/submit?url=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/112...> > <http://reddit.com/submit?url=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/112...> > > > > > Add to Google Bookmarks< > http://www.google.com/bookmarks/mark?op=add&bkmk=http://www.miamihera...> > <http://www.google.com/bookmarks/mark?op=add&bkmk=http://www.miamihera...> > > > > > Thumb this up at StumbleUpon. <http://www.stumbleupon.com/submit> < > http://www.stumbleupon.com/submit> > > > Publish this post to LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle> < > http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle> > > > Add to del.icio.us <http://del.icio.us/post> <http://del.icio.us/post > ><http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=the_miami_herald&guid=http%3A...> > <http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=the_miami_herald&guid=http%3A...> > > > > > Post to MySpace <http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=postto> < > http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=postto> > > > Add to facebook< > http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http://www.miamiherald.com/opini...> > <http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=http://www.miamiherald.com/opini...> > > > > > DIGG This< > http://digg.com/submit?url=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/11287...> > <http://digg.com/submit?url=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/11287...> > > > > > Bookmark this post on Twitter. <http://twitter.com/home> < > http://twitter.com/home> > > > > > President Obama should do what he says about secrecy > > > > > OUR OPINION: President Obama promised transparency but often sides > > > with secrecy > > > > > *A*s a candidate for president, Sen. Barack Obama vowed to run an open > > > government. He reiterated that pledge on Inauguration Day: > > > ''Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this > > > presidency,'' he said. > > > > > Nearly six months later, advocates of open government are still waiting > > > for the president to fulfill this promise. Compared to the Bush > > > presidency, this administration is doing better. But what President > > > Obama has /done/, compared to what he /said/ he would do, are two > > > different things, thanks in part to the unequivocal language he used > and > > > the expections he raised. > > > > > *Ended Ashcroft order* > > > > > The president deserves credit for taking action on his first day in > > > office to rescind a 2001 memo by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft > > > giving agencies broad legal cover to reject public disclosure requests. > > > He also revoked an executive order signed by former President George W. > > > Bush in 2001 that limited release of former presidents' records, and > > > replaced it with new language aimed at more transparency. > > > > > Ending unnecessary secrecy, however, has apparently proven tougher than > > > the president expected. He has come down on the side of keeping the > > > public uninformed in a variety of decisions that, as a candidate, he > > > might well have scorned. > > > > > One of the most troubling instances occurred last month, involving > White > > > House refusal to turn over White House visitor logs by coal industry > > > executives. An organization called Citizens for Responsibility and > > > Ethics in Washington has filed a lawsuit, saying the Obama White House > > > is essentially embracing the Bush administration position on the > secrecy > > > of the comings and goings of visitors to the executive mansion. > > > > > This makes for a murky transparency policy. > > > > > White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said lawyers were reviewing the > > > policy regarding the release of visitor logs. They should start by > > > reading the well-publicized ''memorandum of transparency'' that > > > President Obama signed on his first day in office. > > > > > The president said open government was a way to hold government > > > accountable, ``so that the American people can know exactly what > > > decisions are being made, how they're being made, and whether their > > > interests are being well served.'' > > > > > Nice words, but if the White House doesn't stop hiding the logs, no one > > > else in government can be expected to take the disclosure policy > seriously. > > > > > The president's record of open government has fallen short of > > > fulfillment most often on issues involving national security. > > > > > The White House agreed to release memorandums detailing the alleged > > > torture of detainees, sparking criticism from former Bush > administration > > > officials. But in other instances the president has either embraced Mr. > > > Bush's positions or changed his mind about following through on > promises > > > of disclosure. > > > > > At first, the White House said it would support the release of photos > of > > > detainee abuse but later reversed course and decided to leave it up to > > > the courts. Concerns about secrecy and repercussions are valid, but > > > passing the buck to the courts on this issue does not add to the > > > president's credibility regarding disclosure. > > > > > The White House has also continued the Bush administration's objections > > > to the release of an interview that former Vice President Dick Cheney > > > gave to the FBI during its investigation of the leak of CIA agent > > > Valerie Plame's identity. Again emulating the Bush administration, the > > > current occupant of the White House has moved to dismiss lawsuits > > > seeking White House e-mails from the past several years. > > > > > *Using legal tactic* > > > > > Mr. Obama's administration has not hesitated to fight disclosure in > > > court, either. In May, it supported the ''state secrecy'' doctrine in a > > > case involving a lawsuit against a government contractor by five > victims > > > of ``extraordinary rendition.'' > > > > > This is the legal tactic that says the government can prevent the > courts > > > from hearing claims by those who say they were hurt by federal actions > > > -- because the need for state secrecy requires it. > > > > > That is exactly the same position the Bush administration took, a > policy > > > that allows government to evade the accountability that Mr. Obama vowed > > > to champion. In turning down the administration's appeal, a judge noted > > > that the policy is often a convenient way for governments to hide > > > politically embarrassing information. > > > > > The administration claims it has valid reasons in each of these > > > instances to opt for secrecy, but the pattern is both disappointing and > > > a far cry from what Mr. Obama led voters to believe during the > campaign. > > > > > The government has a legitimate right to protect certain information. > > > But the record indicates that given a choice between disclosure and > > > secrecy, Mr. Obama is falling into the appalling habit of hiding the > facts. > > > > > * recommend > > > < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#> < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#> > > > * email > > > < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-emailform/story/11287...> > <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-emailform/story/11287...> > > > * print > > > < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-print/story/1128722.html> > <http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/v-print/story/1128722.html> > > > * share > > > < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#> < > http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/story/1128722.html#> > > > * Buzz up! > > > < > http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=the_miami_herald&guid=http%3A...> > <http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzz?publisherurn=the_miami_herald&guid=http%3A...> > > > > > FARK it!< > http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/farkit.pl?u=http://www.miamiherald.com/o...> > <http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/farkit.pl?u=http://www.miamiherald.com/o...> > > > > > Send to AIM<aim:goim?Message= > http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/1128722.html> > > > Seed Newsvine <javascript:void(0)> > > > Add to Reddit< > http://reddit.com/submit?url=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/112...> > <http://reddit.com/submit?url=http://www.miamiherald.com/454/story/112...> > > > > > Add to Google > > > > ... > > > > read more ยป- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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