It's interesting that the car manufacturers are whining about forced MPG requirements to get our money, when if they stopped and thought about why there are a billion unsold SUV's on their lots and Toyota is profitible (can you say Prius?) or that VW as a 60MPG car (!!!) they might become profitable again....
On Jul 11, 5:34 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand that the Tesla sedan will be around 49-57K, considerably > better than the sports car. I have problems with electric engines > because of the battery cost and how do you get rid of the batteries > when you have to replace the one that comes with the car. Also I would > assume that the environmental cost of producing the things would be > rather prohibitive as well. That BMW sounds nice but I would have to be > assured that there is no chance of the hydrogen being driven down rather > than up when it escapes. I saw where BMW says it would go up rather > than down but all it has to do is go down one time and you are toast. > > I prefer the advanced diesel engines more than these others. Apparently > they will run on almost anything - corn oil, soy bean oil, peanut oil, > deep fat fry oil and they get better mileage than the Prius Hybrid > does. That little VW that is coming out in the next couple of years > looks good to me although since I live in NYC I don't even have a car or > license now. Doesn't make sense with the parking problems, the > insurance costs, the gas costs and the public transit systems here. > Almost anywhere else in the country the result might be different with > there being no public transportation but here it is ridiculous. I > remember a friend who lived on East 90th St and the parking garage down > the street from him 15 years ago was $400/month. It is more than that > now. Add that to 2500/year insurance and no on street parking and gas > starting at over $3 even for cheap gas ( just saw up the street where > reg was $3.10, medium was 3.25 and premium was 3.47 and diesel was over > $4). Add that all up and you got some real costs. I live in Queens and > as an example there are 7 apartments in my building. I am the only one > without a car. Altogether there are 11 cars here and 2 parking spaces. > The rest of the buildings around here are much the same. What do you do > with the cars then. And they are building 8-10 story apartment > buildings where there were single family homes before which just > exasperates the problem. > > I remember my mother telling me that when she was going to college at > Denison in Granville, Ohio, she was taking an interurban train to go to > college every day and she woudl study on the way to school. That was > from 1920-1924. Now there are none. In fact there are not even any > Greyhound buses or passenger trains going there now. > > > > Frederick The Moderate wrote: > > I've been looking at the 745LI and found out about this during a > > discussion with the salesman. Wish they sold them here! > > It's as fast and luxurious and any conventional car. The Germans are > > not taxing BMW on the sales of them for the first five years of > > production (smart!). Tons of jobs are being created, building > > facilities for hydrogen distribution (but not eliminating gas). So > > they still aren't for sale until the basics are in place to make them > > practical. Gets a range of 125 miles on hydrogen and can use gas for > > another 310. Cool! > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcsRk_gtO2U or > > >http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=117647 > > > Here's a little number that won't cost over $100K like Tesla's but it > > looks like luke skywalker should be driving it. There ahve been a > > couple delays but word is it should be out late this year / early > > next: > > >http://www.autobloggreen.com/2009/01/23/video-and-pics-of-running-zap... > > > There are a lot of other examples comeing out every month. We're > > Americans. We're smart and capable. We no longer have a president with > > a strongly vested interest in oil. Let's start getting away from it! > > Cars are just a part of it. I'm all for solar, wind, nuke and cowfart- > > technology if it will release us from the grip of the Saudi's. > > What do you think?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
