I think he is unqualified. I cannot comment on whether he is legally qualified. I do not think he is an asshole. I leave that moniker for Ted Kennedy. Hell, Carter was a disaster, but I would not even call him an asshole.
On Jul 15, 8:19 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > Obama is the problem. Either there is no legal birth certificate on > file for him in Hawaii or there is and he cynically refuses to release > information the American people are entitled to, and end this debate. > So he's either unqualified or a complete asshole. > > On Jul 15, 10:13 am, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > I can't answer the question about his state-sanctioned birth > > certificate. > > > I was only pointing out that the hospital is not the problem. > > > On Jul 15, 8:11 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I have a BIRTH CERTIFICATE that has a raised seal, is issued by the > > > state health department, identifies the date, place and time of my > > > birth, parents, etc. Its filed with the registrar of vital statistics. > > > How is that not publicly available information? Why can't Obama or the > > > state of Hawaii produce the same? > > > > On Jul 15, 9:59 am, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > The birth certificat is granted by the state. You mentioned birth and > > > > hospitsl records. Those will not be relesed. > > > > > On Jul 15, 7:54 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I can see where patient information regarding health matters is > > > > > protected, but isn't a birth certificate a public document? Mine is > > > > > certified and filed with the registrar of the city. > > > > > > On Jul 15, 9:47 am, RichardForbes <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Wow. I am shocked. The hospital has chosen not to violate HIPPA > > > > > > laws. What are they thinking? > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 5:47 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com:80/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103294 > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > BORN IN THE USA? > > > > > > > Hospital won't back Obama birth claim > > > > > > > Honolulu's Kapi'olani Medical Center refuses to confirm > > > > > > > White House > > > > > > > letter > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Posted: July 06, 2009 > > > > > > > 9:26 pm Eastern > > > > > > > > By Jerome R. Corsi > > > > > > > © 2009 WorldNetDaily > > > > > > > > The hospital in Hawaii where Barack Obama claims he was > > > > > > > born refuses > > > > > > > to produce any documentation – or even confirm the claim – without > > > > > > > permission of the president himself. > > > > > > > > The Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in > > > > > > > Honolulu has > > > > > > > posted on its website a letter on White House stationery dated > > > > > > > Jan. 24 in > > > > > > > which Obama wrote, "As a beneficiary of the excellence of > > > > > > > Kapi'olani Medical > > > > > > > Center – the place of my birth – I am pleased to add my voice to > > > > > > > your chorus > > > > > > > of supporters." > > > > > > > > Barack Obama states in this letter on White House > > > > > > > stationery > > > > > > > that he was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and > > > > > > > Children in > > > > > > > Honolulu. The letter was posted by the medical center on its > > > > > > > website. > > > > > > > > Kristy Watanabe, the public relations specialist for the > > > > > > > hospital > > > > > > > refused to confirm or deny the veracity of Obama's letter > > > > > > > claiming he was > > > > > > > born at the hospital. > > > > > > > > "Our comment to everyone who has been calling is that > > > > > > > federal law does > > > > > > > not permit us to provide any more details concerning information > > > > > > > [about > > > > > > > Obama's birth] without authorization from Mr. Obama," Watanabe > > > > > > > told WND. > > > > > > > > Send Barack Obama and all your friends a very special > > > > > > > message with > > > > > > > "Where's the birth certificate?" postcards, exclusively from WND's > > > > > > > Superstore! > > > > > > > > She said the hospital had not contacted Obama for > > > > > > > authorization. > > > > > > > > When WND asked Watanabe why the hospital did not contact > > > > > > > Obama to ask > > > > > > > for authorization, especially given the number of phone calls the > > > > > > > hospital > > > > > > > was receiving with the request, Watanabe said: "This is our > > > > > > > response, and we > > > > > > > can't say anything more than that." > > > > > > > > Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in > > > > > > > Honolulu, > > > > > > > Hawaii > > > > > > > > WND asked if a hypothetical elected official pretended to > > > > > > > be born at > > > > > > > the hospital, would federal law prevent her from disclosing that? > > > > > > > If so, > > > > > > > which federal law would that be? > > > > > > > > "It's just our policy that without permission we don't ever > > > > > > > answer > > > > > > > questions about babies born in the hospital," she said. > > > > > > > > This is not the first time Kapi'olani and other Hawaiian > > > > > > > hospitals > > > > > > > have slammed the door on WND's attempts to ascertain specifics > > > > > > > about Obama's > > > > > > > birth. > > > > > > > > As reported last month, Kapi'olani declined to return any > > > > > > > of at least > > > > > > > four WND messages requesting comment, while Queen's Medical > > > > > > > Center said in a > > > > > > > prepared statement, "Due to patient privacy laws we cannot > > > > > > > respond to your > > > > > > > inquiries." > > > > > > > > A private detective working in conjunction with WND's > > > > > > > investigations > > > > > > > last year into Obama's birthplace also visited the hospitals. > > > > > > > > In a subsequent affidavit, he said the much-publicized > > > > > > > online image of > > > > > > > what the White House says is Obama's birth certificate doesn't > > > > > > > prove any > > > > > > > birth location. > > > > > > > > "On October 31st, 2008, officials in Hawaii released a > > > > > > > statement that > > > > > > > they had examined the birth certificate, but failed to declare > > > > > > > whether it > > > > > > > was a Live Birth Certificate generated by a hospital with > > > > > > > signatures of the > > > > > > > attending physician or a 'Late Birth' Certificate of Hawaiian > > > > > > > Birth that > > > > > > > could have been obtained (for a child) who is one year old or > > > > > > > older after > > > > > > > birth by a simple affirmation of a family member," wrote > > > > > > > investigator Jorge > > > > > > > L. Baro, of Elite Legal Services in Florida. > > > > > > > > "Only the 'Long Form' original certificate will answer all > > > > > > > questions > > > > > > > about the date and location of birth and confirm that it occurred > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > Hawaii," he said. > > > > > > > > WND reported in the April issue of Whistleblower that > > > > > > > Obama's > > > > > > > step-grandmother in an interview transcript obtained by WND in > > > > > > > Africa has > > > > > > > claimed she was present at Obama's birth in Mombasa, Kenya. > > > > > > > > WND is in possession of an affidavit submitted by Rev. > > > > > > > Kweli Shuhubia, > > > > > > > an Anabaptist minister in Kenya, who is the official Swahili > > > > > > > translator for > > > > > > > the annual Anabaptist Conference in Kenya, and a second affidavit > > > > > > > signed by > > > > > > > Bishop Ron McRae, the presiding elder of the Anabaptists' > > > > > > > Continental > > > > > > > Presbytery of Africa. > > > > > > > > In his affidavit, Shuhubia asserts "it is common knowledge > > > > > > > throughout > > > > > > > the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein > > > > > > > Obama, > > > > > > > Jr., was born in Mombasa, Kenya." > > > > > > > > Shuhubia further states in his affidavit that he visited > > > > > > > Obama's > > > > > > > grandmother at her home in the village of Alego-Kogello, on Oct. > > > > > > > 16, 2008, > > > > > > > in order to conduct a telephone conference interview that would > > > > > > > connect with > > > > > > > McRae in the United States. > > > > > > > > During the telephone interview, McRae specifically asked > > > > > > > Sarah Obama > > > > > > > two times, "Were you present when your grandson was born in > > > > > > > Kenya." > > > > > > > > "Both times she specifically replied, 'Yes,'" Shuhubia > > > > > > > affirmed in the > > > > > > > affidavit. > > > > > > > > "Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her > > > > > > > grandson, Senator > > > > > > > Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States," Shuhubia > > > > > > > continued in > > > > > > > the affidavit. > > > > > > > > "During the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never > > > > > > > changed her > > > > > > > reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was > > > > > > > born in > > > > > > > Kenya," Shuhubia insisted in the affidavit. > > > > > > > > The affidavit documents that President Obama's > > > > > > > step-grandmother was > > > > > > > asked the questions several times, both in her native language, > > > > > > > Swahili, and > > > > > > > in English, and that the Anabaptists conducting the interview > > > > > > > were confident > > > > > > > she understood clearly the questions that were asked. > > > > > > > > "Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she > > > > > > > was indeed > > > > > > > present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya," McRae swore > > > > > > > in his > > > > > > > affidavit > > > > > > > > McRae affirmed that Obama's step-grandmother had been asked > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > question several times and a discussion over the conference call > > > > > > > with those > > > > > > > present with her in her home in Kogello made clear that she > > > > > > > understood the > > > > > > > question. > > > > > > > > WND also reported the office of Hawaii Republican Gov. > > > > > > > Linda Lingle > > > > > > > has officially declined a request made in writing by WND in > > > > > > > Hawaii to obtain > > > > > > > a copy of Obama's hospital-generated long-form original birth > > > > > > > certificate. > > > > > > > > "It does not appear that Dr. Corsi is within any of these > > > > > > > categories > > > > > > > of persons with a direct and tangible interest in the birth > > > > > > > certificate he > > > > > > > seeks," wrote Roz Makuala, manager of constituent services in the > > > > > > > governor's > > > > > > > office, in a > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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