plain,

What a fucked-up deal. Hiring fucking civilians to protect our
professional soldiers.

On Jul 27, 10:36 am, plainolamerican <[email protected]>
wrote:
> yeah, I'll bet some of those soldiers would love to be making
> contractor wages
> wb
>
> On Jul 27, 6:24 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/25/AR200...
>
> > *Military Weighs Private Security on Front Lines*
> > Firm Could Have Broad Protection Authority in Afghanistan
>
> > By Walter Pincus
> > Washington Post Staff Writer
> > Sunday, July 26, 2009
>
> > The U.S. military command is considering contracting a private firm to
> > manage security on the front lines of the war in Afghanistan, even as
> > Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates says that the Pentagon intends to cut back
> > on the use of private security contractors.
>
> > On a Web site listing federal business opportunities, the Army this month
> > published a 
> > notice<https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=623e06f2f116f482...>soliciting
> > information from prospective contractors who would develop a
> > security plan for 50 or more forward operating bases and smaller command
> > outposts across Afghanistan.
>
> > Although the U.S. military has contracted out security services to protect
> > individuals, military bases and other facilities in Iraq and Afghanistan,
> > this contract would award a commercial company unusually broad
> > "theater-wide" authority to protect forward operating bases in a war zone.
>
> > "The contractor shall be responsible for providing security services,
> > developing, implementing, adequately staffing, and managing a security
> > program," the notice said, adding that the contractor would have to be
> > available "24 hours a day, seven days a week."
>
> > The U.S. military currently has 72 contracts that provide 5,600 civilian
> > guards, mostly local Afghans, at forward bases across Afghanistan, according
> > to Lt. Cmdr. Christine M. Sidenstricker, chief of media operations for U.S.
> > Forces-Afghanistan. The intent of the proposed contract is to bring all
> > "disparate and subordinate contracts" under single, theater-wide management
> > at a time when the U.S. forces are expanding, she said.
>
> > The Army has not issued a formal proposal for a contract, but the notice
> > says that interested companies should reply by Wednesday and that a formal
> > request for proposals should follow. The "anticipated award date" for a
> > contract is Dec. 1, according to the notice.
>
> > The request for information comes as Gates is moving to put soldiers back in
> > charge of security roles that contractors have filled in recent years.
> > Drawing on its experience in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Defense Department
> > recently organized a task force to measure the military's dependence on
> > contractor support in training and security, with the goal of determining an
> > appropriate mix.
>
> > Lawmakers, too, have raised concerns about the cost of contractors and about
> > outsourcing what have traditionally been government roles.
>
> > The Commission on Wartime Contracting, a bipartisan congressional panel,
> > noted in a recent
> > report<http://www.wartimecontracting.gov/images/download/documents/reports/C...>that
> > in previous wars, military police protected bases while other service
> > members pursued the enemy. "Contractors are now literally in the center of
> > the battlefield in unprecedented numbers," the commission said, creating "a
> > need to define specific functions that are not appropriate for performance
> > by contractors in a contingency operation."
>
> > Meanwhile, Sen. Claire
> > McCaskill<http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m001170/>(D-Mo.),
> > chairman of the Senate subcommittee on contracting oversight, said
> > her panel had "revealed major concerns about the use of private security
> > contractors in Afghanistan." She added that a hard look needs to be taken
> > "at where we have gone wrong in the past, to ensure that the military does
> > not repeat history."
>
> > Afghan forward operating bases are often considered dangerous posts. An
> > American soldier was critically injured this month when insurgents attacked
> > Forward Operating Base Salerno, near the eastern border town of Khost. Two
> > U.S. troops died July 4 at Combat Outpost Zerok, also near the Pakistan
> > border, in an insurgent assault.
>
> > In the worst attack on an outpost, roughly 200 insurgents broke through
> > security walls last year at an outpost in Konar province and killed nine
> > American soldiers. Sen. James
> > Webb<http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/w000803/>(D-Va.),
> > a member of the Armed Services Committee, recently asked the
> > Pentagon's inspector general to investigate whether security at the post was
> > adequate.
>
> > With Afghan army and police officers totaling roughly 160,000, and the
> > number of U.S. service members in Afghanistan set to grow to 68,000 by
> > year's end, the U.S. military is moving to protect the facilities where
> > personnel will be based. But many experts say commanders do not have enough
> > forces.
>
> > "We don't want to waste scarce Afghan army and police, so we must be
> > creative," said Michael E. O'Hanlon, a senior fellow and military expert at
> > the Brookings Institution.
>
> > But O'Hanlon also said he is concerned that if contractors were to take over
> > security at forward operating bases, they would be the first to see hostile
> > fire, and they -- not soldiers -- would have to decide whether to employ
> > weapons against an enemy.
>
> > Instead of hiring a private firm, O'Hanlon said, the Americans and Afghans
> > could create a local version of Iraq's Facilities Protection Service, the
> > modestly trained but government-paid guard force that was pulled together to
> > provide protection for government ministries in Baghdad and the oil fields.
> > "We should create a different branch of the Afghan security forces that has
> > minimal training," he said.
>
> > At a town hall meeting at Fort Drum, N.Y., on July 16, Gates said that the
> > military had let contracting "grow without the kind of controls that we
> > should" have had. The purpose, he said, was "to try and free up as many
> > soldiers for actual combat duty, rather than having them do things that
> > civilian contractors could do."
>
> > Contractors, Gates noted, have done a variety of jobs, including running
> > dining facilities and doing laundry, cleaning chores and security work. "So,
> > we're kind of going back through all of these roles, at this point, to
> > figure out where military ought to be doing these things and where civilian
> > contractors can be," he said.
>
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