I agree.

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> plain,
>
> What a fucked-up deal. Hiring fucking civilians to protect our
> professional soldiers.
>
> On Jul 27, 10:36 am, plainolamerican <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>  > yeah, I'll bet some of those soldiers would love to be making
> > contractor wages
> > wb
> >
> > On Jul 27, 6:24 am, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/25/AR200.
> ..
> >
> > > *Military Weighs Private Security on Front Lines*
> > > Firm Could Have Broad Protection Authority in Afghanistan
> >
> > > By Walter Pincus
> > > Washington Post Staff Writer
> > > Sunday, July 26, 2009
> >
> > > The U.S. military command is considering contracting a private firm to
> > > manage security on the front lines of the war in Afghanistan, even as
> > > Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates says that the Pentagon intends to cut
> back
> > > on the use of private security contractors.
> >
> > > On a Web site listing federal business opportunities, the Army this
> month
> > > published a notice<
> https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=623e06f2f116f482..
> .>soliciting
> > > information from prospective contractors who would develop a
> > > security plan for 50 or more forward operating bases and smaller
> command
> > > outposts across Afghanistan.
> >
> > > Although the U.S. military has contracted out security services to
> protect
> > > individuals, military bases and other facilities in Iraq and
> Afghanistan,
> > > this contract would award a commercial company unusually broad
> > > "theater-wide" authority to protect forward operating bases in a war
> zone.
> >
> > > "The contractor shall be responsible for providing security services,
> > > developing, implementing, adequately staffing, and managing a security
> > > program," the notice said, adding that the contractor would have to be
> > > available "24 hours a day, seven days a week."
> >
> > > The U.S. military currently has 72 contracts that provide 5,600
> civilian
> > > guards, mostly local Afghans, at forward bases across Afghanistan,
> according
> > > to Lt. Cmdr. Christine M. Sidenstricker, chief of media operations for
> U.S.
> > > Forces-Afghanistan. The intent of the proposed contract is to bring all
> > > "disparate and subordinate contracts" under single, theater-wide
> management
> > > at a time when the U.S. forces are expanding, she said.
> >
> > > The Army has not issued a formal proposal for a contract, but the
> notice
> > > says that interested companies should reply by Wednesday and that a
> formal
> > > request for proposals should follow. The "anticipated award date" for a
> > > contract is Dec. 1, according to the notice.
> >
> > > The request for information comes as Gates is moving to put soldiers
> back in
> > > charge of security roles that contractors have filled in recent years.
> > > Drawing on its experience in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Defense
> Department
> > > recently organized a task force to measure the military's dependence on
> > > contractor support in training and security, with the goal of
> determining an
> > > appropriate mix.
> >
> > > Lawmakers, too, have raised concerns about the cost of contractors and
> about
> > > outsourcing what have traditionally been government roles.
> >
> > > The Commission on Wartime Contracting, a bipartisan congressional
> panel,
> > > noted in a recent
> > > report<
> http://www.wartimecontracting.gov/images/download/documents/reports/C..
> .>that
> > > in previous wars, military police protected bases while other service
> > > members pursued the enemy. "Contractors are now literally in the center
> of
> > > the battlefield in unprecedented numbers," the commission said,
> creating "a
> > > need to define specific functions that are not appropriate for
> performance
> > > by contractors in a contingency operation."
> >
> > > Meanwhile, Sen. Claire
> > > McCaskill<http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m001170/
> >(D-Mo.),
> > > chairman of the Senate subcommittee on contracting oversight, said
> > > her panel had "revealed major concerns about the use of private
> security
> > > contractors in Afghanistan." She added that a hard look needs to be
> taken
> > > "at where we have gone wrong in the past, to ensure that the military
> does
> > > not repeat history."
> >
> > > Afghan forward operating bases are often considered dangerous posts. An
> > > American soldier was critically injured this month when insurgents
> attacked
> > > Forward Operating Base Salerno, near the eastern border town of Khost.
> Two
> > > U.S. troops died July 4 at Combat Outpost Zerok, also near the Pakistan
> > > border, in an insurgent assault.
> >
> > > In the worst attack on an outpost, roughly 200 insurgents broke through
> > > security walls last year at an outpost in Konar province and killed
> nine
> > > American soldiers. Sen. James
> > > Webb<http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/w000803/
> >(D-Va.),
> > > a member of the Armed Services Committee, recently asked the
> > > Pentagon's inspector general to investigate whether security at the
> post was
> > > adequate.
> >
> > > With Afghan army and police officers totaling roughly 160,000, and the
> > > number of U.S. service members in Afghanistan set to grow to 68,000 by
> > > year's end, the U.S. military is moving to protect the facilities where
> > > personnel will be based. But many experts say commanders do not have
> enough
> > > forces.
> >
> > > "We don't want to waste scarce Afghan army and police, so we must be
> > > creative," said Michael E. O'Hanlon, a senior fellow and military
> expert at
> > > the Brookings Institution.
> >
> > > But O'Hanlon also said he is concerned that if contractors were to take
> over
> > > security at forward operating bases, they would be the first to see
> hostile
> > > fire, and they -- not soldiers -- would have to decide whether to
> employ
> > > weapons against an enemy.
> >
> > > Instead of hiring a private firm, O'Hanlon said, the Americans and
> Afghans
> > > could create a local version of Iraq's Facilities Protection Service,
> the
> > > modestly trained but government-paid guard force that was pulled
> together to
> > > provide protection for government ministries in Baghdad and the oil
> fields.
> > > "We should create a different branch of the Afghan security forces that
> has
> > > minimal training," he said.
> >
> > > At a town hall meeting at Fort Drum, N.Y., on July 16, Gates said that
> the
> > > military had let contracting "grow without the kind of controls that we
> > > should" have had. The purpose, he said, was "to try and free up as many
> > > soldiers for actual combat duty, rather than having them do things that
> > > civilian contractors could do."
> >
> > > Contractors, Gates noted, have done a variety of jobs, including
> running
> > > dining facilities and doing laundry, cleaning chores and security work.
> "So,
> > > we're kind of going back through all of these roles, at this point, to
> > > figure out where military ought to be doing these things and where
> civilian
> > > contractors can be," he said.
> >
> > > __,_._,___- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>  >
>

--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum

* Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/  
* It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. 
* Read the latest breaking news, and more.
-~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

Reply via email to