My question to you July 19, "Surging" Into Afghanistan Thread
> Is a German consular office not considered German soil, as embassies are? Your answer: >Yes. You stand corrected. >"so?" one of the ways to lose citizenship is to take an oath to a >foreign >state.... The oath you were referring to was the oath you took to get into the US military, no? >SO..... you said the US does NOT recognize dual citizens... No I didn't. On Aug 3, 2:47 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >it was a consular office dedicated to liason with the auto industry... >it > > was NOT open to offer standard "consular" services. > > > Didn't say it was. But YOU previously said that this office was > > considered German soil, just like embassies. > > For LEGAL search and siezure, yes. for many other things such as "title" to > the property, no. > > > > > >You DO have to take an "oath". > > > So? > > "so?" one of the ways to lose citizenship is to take an oath to a foreign > state.... if intent is to denounce US. > > SO..... you said the US does NOT recognize dual citizens... that is "so". To > QUOTE you: > > Mark.....Ummmm silverbelle..... THAT is NOT correct. I am a Triple > citizen.....> and the US recognizes me. > > Zebnik....No we don't. > > You stand corrected. > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 2:21 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >anyone born of foreign parents on US soil has dual citizenship > > > > > I believe you said you were born in an embassy or consulate or some > > > > such. You also said that such a establishment was considered to be > > > > sovereign soil of the other country and as such, you would not be born > > > > on US soil. The same was true for McCain, born on "US soil" in a > > > > foreign country. > > > > It was NOT an Embassy.... it was a consular office dedicated to liason > > with > > > the auto industry... it was NOT open to offer standard "consular" > > services. > > > There are plenty of these scattered throughout the US even now, dedicated > > to > > > "certain" proprietary interests. > > > > > You don't have to be a US citizen to be in the service. > > > > You DO have to take an "oath". > > > > > On Aug 3, 1:12 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Want a copy of my passports ?? The only case the US does not > > recognize > > > > > is if it is necessary to take an "oath" to acquire other > > citizenships. > > > > > Anyone born of US parents abroad has dual citizenship, anyone born of > > > > > foreign parents on US soil has dual citizenship. Most nations > > > > > (including the US) simply do not allow a "citizen" to enter or leave > > > > > their borders using a foreign passport... you must carry all > > passports > > > > > when travelling. > > > > > > Zeb.... please show me the "law" that says otherwise. I live in and > > > > > have a passport from CR. the last time I travelled to the US I used > > my > > > > > CR passport to leave CR and my US passport to enter the US.... I was > > > > > asked about the missing exit stamp in my US passport and simply > > showed > > > > > them my CR passport... teh agentb stamped my passport (US) and said > > > > > "welcome home" to which I replied ' No, My home is CR and I'm simply > > > > > visiting friends' To which he then replied ' have a nice vacation in > > > > > the US.' > > > > > > Please explain this, I was awarded CR citizenship, I was born with > > > > > German and US citizenship. please explain the illegality of this to > > > > > me.... > > > > > > Page 4-5 under "WHILE IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY Section "8" of my US > > > > > passport says > > > > > > "Loss of US Citizenship: Under certain circumstances, you may lose > > > > > your US citizenship by performing, voluntarily and with the intention > > > > > to relinquish US citizenship, any of the following acts; (1) being > > > > > naturalized in a foreign state, (2) taking an oath or making a > > > > > declaration to a foreign state; (3) serving in the armed forces of a > > > > > foreign state; (4) accepting employment with a foreign government; > > or, > > > > > formally renouncing US citizenship before a US consular officer > > > > > overseas. > > > > > > Section "9" goes on to explain that as a dual citizen I may forfiet > > my > > > > > rights to US consular assistence while in my "other" country etc. > > > > > > Since as a youth I served in both the US Navy and after that in the > > > > > German Army (volunteer US, obligatory Deutshland) and had no > > > > > "intention" to relinquish either citizenship, and since BOTH knew of > > > > > the other (I was a Nuclear Machinist Mate in the US service with a > > "Q" > > > > > clearance) I was seriously "vetted"... all nice and legal. > > > > > > Zeb, once again you speak from the lower rear mouth. > > > > > > On Aug 2, 9:58 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > No we don't. > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 7:22 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ummmm silverbelle..... THAT is NOT correct. I am a Triple > > > > citizen..... > > > > > > > and the US recognizes me. > > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 3:24 pm, sILVER bELLE <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The United States does NOT recognize 'duel citizen ship' .... > > > > > > > > > Barry WHO??? > > > > > > > > > sILVER bELLE > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:12:47 -0700 > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Soetoro Family Photo 1970... > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bruce, > > > > > > > > > > Can you or anyone else tell me what the symbol > > on > > > > the > > > > > > > > > medallion around Barry Soetoro's neck means or is? > > > **************************************************************************************************************************************** > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 2, 2:13 pm, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Soetoro Family Photo 1970... > > > > > > > > > > > Meet the Soetoros > > > > > > > > > > > Indonesia > > > > > > > > > > > L to R, Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya > > > > Soetoro, and 9 > > > > > > > > > > year old Barry Soetoro (AKA Barack Hussein Obama - > > President of > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > United States > > > > > > > > > > of America) > > > > > > > > > > Somebody help me out here. If our Constitution states that > > > > dual citizens > > > > > > > > > > are not eligible to serve as president, how did Barry get > > > > around this little > > > > > > > > > > detail? > > > > > > > > > > > This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, > > 2007, by > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the > > > > registration of > > > > > > > > > > Barack Obama under he name Barry Soetoro made by his > > > > step-father, Lolo > > > > > > > > > > Soetoro. > > > > > > > > > > Name: Barry Soetoro > > > > > > > > > > Religion: Islam > > > > > > > > > > Nationality: Indonesian > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. 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