You keep quoting exclusions that have been placed since the 80's. I was born
long before that.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > 3. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with children born
> to foreign government officials on assignment to the U.S
>
> That would be YOU. Or were you born at the German Consulate because
> your mom was at a cocktail party there at the time?
>
> On Aug 3, 4:57 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I did not "acquire" either, both were inherent at birth.  You are indeed
> > wrong. I did acquire CR citizenship but without taking an oath... it did
> not
> > effect my prior citizenships at all. Now as to your supposed links....
> this
> > is from the US Embassy in Frankfort., Section IV sums it up.
> >
> >  U.S. Citizen Services in Germany Passports, Reports of Birth and
> > Renunciations U.S. and German Citizenship and Dual Nationality I. Basic
> > Primer on American Citizenship Law
> >
> >    1. A person can become an American citizen in one of two ways: by
> birth
> >    or by naturalization.
> >    2. A person may be born a U.S. citizen by either jus soli, i.e.,
> through
> >    place of birth, or jus sanguinis, i.e., through descent from his/her
> >    parents.
> >    3. With very few exceptions, most of which have to do with children
> born
> >    to foreign government officials on assignment to the U.S., a person
> born in
> >    any of the fifty states, Guam, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin
> Islands is
> >    an American citizen at birth under the principle of jus soli,
> regardless of
> >    the nationality of his/her parents. Please contact the Embassy or your
> >    nearest consulate for more information.
> >    4. A person born outside the U.S. or its possessions or territories to
> an
> >    American parent may acquire citizenship at birth through jus
> sanguinis. For
> >    additional information about the complicated issue of transmission of
> U.S.
> >    citizenship by jus sanguinis, please visit the USCIS website or
> contact the
> >    Embassy or your nearest consulate.
> >    5. A non-American can become an American citizen at some time after
> >    his/her birth through the naturalization process, i.e., by applying
> for U.S.
> >    citizenship and satisfying certain legal requirements. Normally,
> he/she must
> >    have resided legally in the U.S. for a considerable period before
> becoming
> >    eligible for naturalization. Before being admitted to citizenship, the
> >    applicant must give up any foreign allegiance and promise to obey the
> >    Constitution and laws of the U.S. For more information about
> naturalization,
> >    please contact the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services,
> Consulate
> >    General Frankfurt, Gießener Str. 30, 60435 Frankfurt am Main,
> 069-7535-2233,
> >    -2243, or -2298, or visit the USCIS web page on naturalization.
> >    6. A child adopted by an American does not automatically become an
> >    American citizen. For more information about the naturalization of
> adopted
> >    children, please contact the Immigration and Naturalization Service at
> the
> >    address, telephone numbers, and/or web site in paragraph 5 above.
> >    7. Americans have a right under U.S. law to renounce their U.S.
> >    citizenship in a consulate abroad. For more information on loss of
> U.S.
> >    citizenship, please contact the Embassy or your nearest consulate.
> >
> > II. Basic Primer on German Citizenship Law
> >
> >    1. A person can become a German citizen in one of three ways: by
> birth,
> >    by adoption as a minor, or by naturalization.
> >    2. A person may be born a German citizen by either jus sanguinis,
> i.e.,
> >    through descent from his/her parents, or jus soli, i.e., through place
> of
> >    birth.
> >    3. As a general rule, a child born to a German citizen parent
> >    automatically acquires German citizenship at birth through jus
> sanguinis,
> >    regardless of the place of birth. There are exceptions under present
> law,
> >    however, and have been many in the past. For more information about
> how
> >    German citizenship may be transmitted by a German parent, please
> contact
> >    your local Staatsangehörigkeitsbehörde (or Standesamt, in some parts
> of
> >    Germany).
> >    4. As of January 1, 2000, a child born in Germany to non-German
> parents
> >    automatically acquires German citizenship at birth by jus soli if: (1)
> at
> >    least one parent had lived legally in Germany for at least eight years
> prior
> >    to the birth; (2) at the time of the birth, that parent had a
> permanent
> >    residence permit (either an Aufenthaltsberichtigung or, for the three
> years
> >    prior to the birth, an unbefristete Aufenhaltserlaubnis). *Note that:
> *
> >       - The child must choose between German nationality and the
> nationality
> >       of his/her parents before he/she turns 23 years of age, unless
> > it is legally
> >       impossible for him/her to give up his/her parents' nationality, in
> which
> >       case he/she must apply to the German authorities for dual
> > nationality before
> >       turning 21.
> >       - Special rules apply to children born between February 2, 1990,
> and
> >       December 31, 1999, who have until December 31, 2000, to apply for
> German
> >       citizenship.
> >       - Those born in Germany to non-German parents before February 2,
> 1990,
> >       have no claim to German citizenship under this law.
> >       - For more information, please contact your local
> >       Staatsangehörigkeitsbehörde or the nearest office of the
> Ausländerbeirat
> >       (Foreigners Advisory Council).
> >    5. A person can become a German citizen at some time after his/her
> birth
> >    through the Einbürgerung (German naturalization) process, i.e., by
> applying
> >    for German citizenship and satisfying certain legal requirements. One
> >    requirement is the formal renunciation of all other nationalities,
> unless
> >    legally impossible under the laws of the applicant's home country. For
> more
> >    information about German naturalization process, please contact your
> local
> >    Staatsangehörigkeitsbehörde (or Standesamt in some parts of Germany)
> or the
> >    nearest Ausländerbeirat.
> >    6. A child under age 18 adopted by a German citizen automatically
> becomes
> >    a German citizen as of the time of the adoption.
> >    7. A German citizen has no right to renounce his/her German
> citizenship
> >    but generally is allowed to do so, so long as he/she does not become
> >    stateless as a result. While there are exceptions, as a general rule a
> >    German citizen may not give up citizenship to avoid an obligation of
> that
> >    citizenship, e.g., military service. For more information about loss
> of
> >    German citizenship, please contact your local
> Staatsangehörigkeitsbehörde
> >    (or Standesamt).
> >
> > III. American-German Dual Nationality
> >
> >    1. Both the United States and Germany recognize the concept of
> multiple
> >    nationality.
> >    2. A child born to an American parent and a German parent acquires
> both
> >    American and German citizenship at birth, regardless of place of
> birth, if
> >    the parents satisfy the jus soli or jus sanguinis requirements of
> their
> >    respective countries. See the sections above entitled, "Basic Primer
> on
> >    American Citizenship Law," and "Basic Primer on German Citizenship
> Law."
> >    Neither country requires a person born under these circumstances to
> choose
> >    between American and German citizenship, i.e., he/she may keep both
> >    citizenships his/her entire life.
> >    3. A child born in Germany to two American parents may also become a
> dual
> >    national at birth under the circumstances described in paragraph 4 in
> the
> >    section above entitled, "Basic Primer on German Citizenship Law."
> Under
> >    German law, he/she would have to choose between American and German
> >    citizenship before turning 23.
> >    4. Under German law, a person may not have more than one citizenship
> >    unless he/she was born with both, as described in paragraphs 2 and 3
> above.
> >    Thus, German law requires an American who becomes a German citizen
> through
> >    the Einbürgerung process (see paragraph 5 in the section entitled,
> "Basic
> >    Primer on German Citizenship Law") to formally renounce his/her
> American
> >    citizenship, and a German who becomes an American citizen (see
> paragraph 5
> >    in the section entitled, "Basic Primer on American Citizenship Law")
> to give
> >    up his/her German citizenship.
> >    5. While Germany recognizes the concept of dual nationality, for most
> >    purposes it considers a dual national in Germany a German citizen
> only.
> >    Thus, the ability of the U.S. Embassy and consulates to provide
> assistance
> >    to an American-German dual national in Germany may be limited. The
> reverse
> >    is true in the U.S., where such a person is considered only American
> for
> >    most purposes, and where the German Embassy or consulates may be able
> to
> >    offer only limited assistance. For more information, please contact
> the
> >    Embassy or your nearest consulate.
> >
> > IV. The Responsibilities of Citizenship
> >
> >    1. *Along with the rights and privileges of a citizenship come certain
>  >    responsibilities. For example: *
> >       - *All American-German dual nationals must enter the United States
> >       with a valid U.S. passport; to enter with only a German passport or
> >       Kinderausweis is a violation of U.S. law. *
> >       - *Depending on the laws in effect, level of income, source of
> income,
> >       etc., an American-German dual national may owe taxes in both
> > countries. All
> >       dual nationals must report all worldwide income by filing an annual
> U.S.
> >       income tax return, regardless of whether they owe taxes to the
> > U.S. or pay
> >       taxes elsewhere. For more information about taxes, please
> > contact your local
> >       German tax office or the: *
> >
> >       *U.S. Consulate General Frankfurt
> >       Internal Revenue Service
> >       Giessener Str. 30
> >       60435 Frankfurt/Main
> >       *
> >
> >       - *An American-German male dual national must register with the
> U.S.
> >       Selective Service System within three months of his eighteenth
> birthday;
> >       that he is also a German citizen does not exempt him from that
> > requirement.
> >       Registering with the Selective Service System, however, has no
> > effect on his
> >       German citizenship. *
> >       - *An American-German dual national is not exempt from German
> military
> >       service simply because he also has U.S. citizenship. However,
> > service in the
> >       German military, at least under these limited circumstances, has
> > no effect
> >       on his U.S. citizenship. *
> >    2. For more information about these and other responsibilities of
> >    citizenship, please contact the
> > ...
> >
> > read more »
>  >
>


-- 
Mark M. Kahle,  ,
www.filacoffee.com

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