Mark, No kidding. I'm willing to bet I can drive the sales up on just about anything by offering to help pay for it with someone else's money. What's the point?
On Aug 5, 8:49 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > auto sales are up over 25% in europe under an identical program....it is > working > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:37 PM, VT VirtualTruth > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > I got news for you, the fact that the program was depletedr an identical > > program....it is working. > > so quickly shows there was a need and as a stimulus > > the earnings numbers for the auto industry says > > it worked. > > > On Aug 4, 1:17 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Doc, > > > > You and VT should take the advice of Senato sales or Schumer ( > > D-NY ) > > > who said of the cash for clunkers program " don't fix what ain't broke > > > " . Health Care ain't broken , it just needs a little adjustment, but > > > guys like Obama and his ilk want to crush it ! > > > ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** > > > > On Aug 4, 1:00 pm, DOC828NDF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hmm.... I would love to agree with you, but the Republicans may be > > > > onto something when they say "what's the rush"... I mean, for > > > > example... What if we were to rush into a war without thinking it > > > > through? No diplomacy, and no planning... What if something goes wrong > > > > and its not as easy as we initially thought? Do we really have aan > > > > exit strategy? We need to take some time to think this thing through. > > > > After all, its not like anyone's dying for healthcare > > > > > On Aug 3, 3:58 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Health Care Reform is NEEDED NOW! > > > > > The Republican party is becoming the party of hatred and the > > > > > destruction of the American dream. > > > > > > Sean Lewis > > > > > August 3, 2009 > > > > > > 1) Minimal basic coverage for the unemployed and uninsured. > > > > > > 2) Preventative care to lower future costs > > > > > > 3) Restructure Medicare and Medicaid so they don't go bankrupt. > > > > > > Who could possibly be against this reform? > > > > > > Republicans! > > > > > > Republicans had control of the last 8 years of the > > > > > US political system, with Bush having veto > > > > > power for all eight and the GOP control of the > > > > > Congress for 6 years. The result was the almost > > > > > complete destruction of the US economy. > > > > > > The country was on the brink of complete collapse > > > > > the last quarter of the Bush Administration. An > > > > > Administration and party that was in complete > > > > > denial there was a problem with the economy. > > > > > > It was with the last minute infusion of over $1 Trillion > > > > > in a single quarter that saved the country from another > > > > > Depression type collapse. > > > > > > When economic pollicies almost end in complete > > > > > collapse, in my book that means FAILURE! Why > > > > > take advice from people who almost detroyed the > > > > > very thing America needed to stay strong? > > > > > > The effects are still being felt 3 quarters later, however > > > > > we have steered away from the edge by NEW Democratic > > > > > Leadership. > > > > > > There is no longer talk of the US facing economic collapse, > > > > > in fact there is talk of a stock market BULL rally. > > > > > > Yet Republicans are using everything in their political > > > > > arsenal to stop the Democrats and the Country itself > > > > > from succeeding. > > > > > > The lunatic fringe of the GOP are using lies, scare tactics, > > > > > hatred and race baiting to focus the attention of the country > > > > > away from healing and recovery to more of the same of the last > > > > > 8 years. Division, strife, class warfare and most recently > > > > > racism. > > > > > > The latest obstruction to US recovery is healthcare reform. > > > > > > Under the Bush Administration more people have entered the > > > > > uninsured rolls, the costs associated with the Social Programs > > > > > of Medicare, Medicaid have risen unchecked and even increased > > > > > due to the one 'FIX' Republicans attempted, the Medicare Prescription > > > > > Drug program that did not help anyone who was not insured and > > > > > cost $850 Billion a year at it's inception, this figure > > > > > will climb as the Baby boomers retire all to give Viagra to the > > > > > pension > > > > > crowd. > > > > > > The Republicans rather than fixing the healthcare system actually > > > > > have hurried up it's demise. Because of what the Republicans have > > > > > done, > > > > > Medicare and Medicaid will go bankrupt FASTER and the Baby Boomers > > > > > will be left with FEWER options if any! > > > > > > The Democrats are trying to fix this with reform in the form > > > > > of preventative care, which will lower FUTURE costs of medical care. > > > > > > Costs control by forcing the insurance and drug companies to offer > > > > > lower priced care through competition. > > > > > > Finally actually offering Minimal low cost coverage for the uninsured > > > > > and unemployed! > > > > > > Without these changes the fate of Healthcare will be similar to the > > > > > collapse of the economy in the fall of 2008! > > > > > > So the GOP is using scare tactics similar to the tactics to get > > > > > this country into war with Iraq. Scare Tactics based on lies, half > > > > > truths > > > > > and misinformation. > > > > > > The GOP is using their shock troops who still believe that President > > > > > Obama > > > > > was not born in the US despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary! > > > > > > These individuals are now using the same Birther reasoning to shout > > > > > abuse at town halls in an attempt to show Congress that America is > > > > > against Health care reform. > > > > > > These are the same people who thought.... > > > > > > There were WMD's. > > > > > > Terri Schiavo was not brain dead. > > > > > > The was a connection between Iraq and 9/11. > > > > > > Al qaeda was in Iraq before the Iraq Invasion. > > > > > > Spying on Americans without a warrant is not against the law. > > > > > > The White House was not responsible for the Treasonous release > > > > > of a covert CIA Operatives identity. > > > > > > The US not tortured Iraqis, some to death, and if they did it was to > > > > > protect > > > > > Americans, not to find a connection between Iraq and 9/11. > > > > > > Bush did protect Americans from the 9/11 attack > > > > > even after ignoring several dozen warnings of a pending attack. > > > > > > I can go on and on , but lets skip to the latest lunatic fringe > > > > > far right conspiracy which once again ignores the truth and the > > > > > facts to tell the LIE, Obama is not an Native born American. > > > > > The facts, a certified birth certificate and birth announcements > > > > > in local papers announcing Obama's birth seem not to matter > > > > > to the hate driven core racist of the GOP, the fools who believe > > > > > ignorance trumps intelligence, and incompetence arrogance and > > > > > ignorance are forgivable even if it costs American lives > > > > > > These are the people now giving advice on the Health Care solution! > > > > > > Enough is enough! > > > > > > If you want failure as we had the last 8 years, listen to > > Republicans, > > > > > > If you want the continued slow recovery and a future! 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