radiator, a/c, manifolds, alternator, ps pump, water pump, motor mounts, transmission, drive shaft, rear end, wiring harness,
shit lots of stuff hangs off an engine..the only non-usable parts will be the block, pistons, head, valves and crank shaft. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:55 PM, dick thompson <[email protected]>wrote: > What can be parted out? They put sodium silicate in the block which > destroys the mechanicals totally. You might get some body parts but no > engine parts. The answer is the US taxpayer takes it in the ass on both > sides of the deal at once. Aren't you glad the vote last fall went the way > it did. The country is in the best of hands, so they say. > > Mark wrote: > > Will the government owned(?) gas guzzlers that are traded in actually be > crushed or will they be sold out of country at a profit ?? > > If they are crushed who gets the salvage money, if they are partsed out who > gets the dough, if they are sold who gets that money... or does the US > taxpayer simply take it in the ass on both sides of the deal once again. > > Any of the three represents substantial cash. > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Doc, >> >> You and VT should take the advice of Senator Schumer ( D-NY ) >> who said of the cash for clunkers program " don't fix what ain't broke >> " . Health Care ain't broken , it just needs a little adjustment, but >> guys like Obama and his ilk want to crush it ! >> >> >> >> ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** >> >> On Aug 4, 1:00 pm, DOC828NDF <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hmm.... I would love to agree with you, but the Republicans may be >> > onto something when they say "what's the rush"... I mean, for >> > example... What if we were to rush into a war without thinking it >> > through? No diplomacy, and no planning... What if something goes wrong >> > and its not as easy as we initially thought? Do we really have aan >> > exit strategy? We need to take some time to think this thing through. >> > After all, its not like anyone's dying for healthcare >> > >> > On Aug 3, 3:58 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > > Health Care Reform is NEEDED NOW! >> > > The Republican party is becoming the party of hatred and the >> > > destruction of the American dream. >> > >> > > Sean Lewis >> > > August 3, 2009 >> > >> > > 1) Minimal basic coverage for the unemployed and uninsured. >> > >> > > 2) Preventative care to lower future costs >> > >> > > 3) Restructure Medicare and Medicaid so they don't go bankrupt. >> > >> > > Who could possibly be against this reform? >> > >> > > Republicans! >> > >> > > Republicans had control of the last 8 years of the >> > > US political system, with Bush having veto >> > > power for all eight and the GOP control of the >> > > Congress for 6 years. The result was the almost >> > > complete destruction of the US economy. >> > >> > > The country was on the brink of complete collapse >> > > the last quarter of the Bush Administration. An >> > > Administration and party that was in complete >> > > denial there was a problem with the economy. >> > >> > > It was with the last minute infusion of over $1 Trillion >> > > in a single quarter that saved the country from another >> > > Depression type collapse. >> > >> > > When economic pollicies almost end in complete >> > > collapse, in my book that means FAILURE! Why >> > > take advice from people who almost detroyed the >> > > very thing America needed to stay strong? >> > >> > > The effects are still being felt 3 quarters later, however >> > > we have steered away from the edge by NEW Democratic >> > > Leadership. >> > >> > > There is no longer talk of the US facing economic collapse, >> > > in fact there is talk of a stock market BULL rally. >> > >> > > Yet Republicans are using everything in their political >> > > arsenal to stop the Democrats and the Country itself >> > > from succeeding. >> > >> > > The lunatic fringe of the GOP are using lies, scare tactics, >> > > hatred and race baiting to focus the attention of the country >> > > away from healing and recovery to more of the same of the last >> > > 8 years. Division, strife, class warfare and most recently >> > > racism. >> > >> > > The latest obstruction to US recovery is healthcare reform. >> > >> > > Under the Bush Administration more people have entered the >> > > uninsured rolls, the costs associated with the Social Programs >> > > of Medicare, Medicaid have risen unchecked and even increased >> > > due to the one 'FIX' Republicans attempted, the Medicare Prescription >> > > Drug program that did not help anyone who was not insured and >> > > cost $850 Billion a year at it's inception, this figure >> > > will climb as the Baby boomers retire all to give Viagra to the >> > > pension >> > > crowd. >> > >> > > The Republicans rather than fixing the healthcare system actually >> > > have hurried up it's demise. Because of what the Republicans have >> > > done, >> > > Medicare and Medicaid will go bankrupt FASTER and the Baby Boomers >> > > will be left with FEWER options if any! >> > >> > > The Democrats are trying to fix this with reform in the form >> > > of preventative care, which will lower FUTURE costs of medical care. >> > >> > > Costs control by forcing the insurance and drug companies to offer >> > > lower priced care through competition. >> > >> > > Finally actually offering Minimal low cost coverage for the uninsured >> > > and unemployed! >> > >> > > Without these changes the fate of Healthcare will be similar to the >> > > collapse of the economy in the fall of 2008! >> > >> > > So the GOP is using scare tactics similar to the tactics to get >> > > this country into war with Iraq. Scare Tactics based on lies, half >> > > truths >> > > and misinformation. >> > >> > > The GOP is using their shock troops who still believe that President >> > > Obama >> > > was not born in the US despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary! >> > >> > > These individuals are now using the same Birther reasoning to shout >> > > abuse at town halls in an attempt to show Congress that America is >> > > against Health care reform. >> > >> > > These are the same people who thought.... >> > >> > > There were WMD's. >> > >> > > Terri Schiavo was not brain dead. >> > >> > > The was a connection between Iraq and 9/11. >> > >> > > Al qaeda was in Iraq before the Iraq Invasion. >> > >> > > Spying on Americans without a warrant is not against the law. >> > >> > > The White House was not responsible for the Treasonous release >> > > of a covert CIA Operatives identity. >> > >> > > The US not tortured Iraqis, some to death, and if they did it was to >> > > protect >> > > Americans, not to find a connection between Iraq and 9/11. >> > >> > > Bush did protect Americans from the 9/11 attack >> > > even after ignoring several dozen warnings of a pending attack. >> > >> > > I can go on and on , but lets skip to the latest lunatic fringe >> > > far right conspiracy which once again ignores the truth and the >> > > facts to tell the LIE, Obama is not an Native born American. >> > > The facts, a certified birth certificate and birth announcements >> > > in local papers announcing Obama's birth seem not to matter >> > > to the hate driven core racist of the GOP, the fools who believe >> > > ignorance trumps intelligence, and incompetence arrogance and >> > > ignorance are forgivable even if it costs American lives >> > >> > > These are the people now giving advice on the Health Care solution! >> > >> > > Enough is enough! >> > >> > > If you want failure as we had the last 8 years, listen to Republicans, >> > >> > > If you want the continued slow recovery and a future! Listen to the >> > > President and the Democrats!- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> -- >> Mark M. Kahle, , >> www.filacoffee.com >> >> >> > > > -- Mark M. Kahle, , www.filacoffee.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
