VT,
You say " reform " I say it's "amnesty ". So why do
law abiding citizens have to pay for 12 to 15 million " illegal alien
immigrants " health care, welfare, schooling or anything else. THEY
ARE HERE "ILLEGALALLY" DUHHH!
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On Aug 5, 9:40 pm, VT VirtualTruth <[email protected]> wrote:
> The GOP stopped ANY reform from happening and NOW
> you are bitching because there is STILL a illegal immigration
> problem! DUH!
>
> So the GOP is trying the same thing with Health Care Reform,
> and if they manage to STOP all reform I can see you bitching in
> 7 years when Medicaid and Medicare become insolvent because
> of the baby boomers retiring about why didn't the Government
> fix health care!
>
> On Aug 5, 8:58 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > VT,
>
> > The repubs did not block any immigration laws, ( I
> > guess you mean amnesty ). It is the " illegal alien Immigrants who
> > have broken the laws. Now you and the other " sponge monkey "
> > parasites want to give them free healthcare. DUHHHH!
> > *********************************************************************************
>
> > VT,
>
> > No! I mean redistribution of wealth by a socialist
> > taking the hard earned money of the middle working class and giving
> > it to parasite liberal " sponge monkeys " continuously looking for
> > handouts like ACORN, unions, "illegal alien immigrants" and the rest
> > of of the non working liberal class.
>
> > **********************************************************************************
>
> > On Aug 5, 7:34 pm, VT VirtualTruth <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > IF the Republicans had not blocked the Immigration
> > > laws, the issue of paying for illegal immigrants would
> > > be mote.
>
> > > Republicans never looked for a way to pay for the Medicare
> > > Drug Prescription Program, but now they are fiscal conservatives!
> > > Preventative care will save $Trillions long term during the Baby
> > > Boomer retirement.
>
> > > Redistribution of wealth? You mean taking trillions from working class
> > > Americans and giving it to the Wealthiest Americans in ill conceived
> > > and vote buying tax cuts during war time?
>
> > > The GOP is playing the race baiting card HARD! You just did it
> > > yourself!
>
> > > Tax Cheats! What about off shore tax havens that the GOP
> > > refused to regulate?
>
> > > On Aug 4, 11:57 am, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > VT,
>
> > > > 1. [ cost ]...... why should we pay
> > > > for health care for 12 to 14 million ( illegal alien immigrants )
> > > > that is $230,000,000,000 extra in cost over ten years.
>
> > > > 2. No way to pay for it unless taxes
> > > > for the working middle class goes up. Obama also wants to tax my
> > > > health care benefits at work.
>
> > > > 3. Obama's Redistribution of wealth
> > > > dogma is an anti-American pro-socialist approach and is a catalyst for
> > > > revolt
>
> > > > 4. Playing the race/class card to
> > > > steal from the middle working & upper classes and not ( unions and
> > > > minority organizations ) is based on " divisiveness & hate " by
> > > > liberal fear mongers like you.
>
> > > > 5. Hypocrite liberal " tax cheats "
> > > > like Geithner, Sebelius, Rangle, Dodd and Frank have no moral right to
> > > > impose taxes on the American people and neither do you or guys like
> > > > Holly.
>
> > > > **********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
>
> > > > On Aug 3, 3:58 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Health Care Reform is NEEDED NOW!
> > > > > The Republican party is becoming the party of hatred and the
> > > > > destruction of the American dream.
>
> > > > > Sean Lewis
> > > > > August 3, 2009
>
> > > > > 1) Minimal basic coverage for the unemployed and uninsured.
>
> > > > > 2) Preventative care to lower future costs
>
> > > > > 3) Restructure Medicare and Medicaid so they don't go bankrupt.
>
> > > > > Who could possibly be against this reform?
>
> > > > > Republicans!
>
> > > > > Republicans had control of the last 8 years of the
> > > > > US political system, with Bush having veto
> > > > > power for all eight and the GOP control of the
> > > > > Congress for 6 years. The result was the almost
> > > > > complete destruction of the US economy.
>
> > > > > The country was on the brink of complete collapse
> > > > > the last quarter of the Bush Administration. An
> > > > > Administration and party that was in complete
> > > > > denial there was a problem with the economy.
>
> > > > > It was with the last minute infusion of over $1 Trillion
> > > > > in a single quarter that saved the country from another
> > > > > Depression type collapse.
>
> > > > > When economic pollicies almost end in complete
> > > > > collapse, in my book that means FAILURE! Why
> > > > > take advice from people who almost detroyed the
> > > > > very thing America needed to stay strong?
>
> > > > > The effects are still being felt 3 quarters later, however
> > > > > we have steered away from the edge by NEW Democratic
> > > > > Leadership.
>
> > > > > There is no longer talk of the US facing economic collapse,
> > > > > in fact there is talk of a stock market BULL rally.
>
> > > > > Yet Republicans are using everything in their political
> > > > > arsenal to stop the Democrats and the Country itself
> > > > > from succeeding.
>
> > > > > The lunatic fringe of the GOP are using lies, scare tactics,
> > > > > hatred and race baiting to focus the attention of the country
> > > > > away from healing and recovery to more of the same of the last
> > > > > 8 years. Division, strife, class warfare and most recently
> > > > > racism.
>
> > > > > The latest obstruction to US recovery is healthcare reform.
>
> > > > > Under the Bush Administration more people have entered the
> > > > > uninsured rolls, the costs associated with the Social Programs
> > > > > of Medicare, Medicaid have risen unchecked and even increased
> > > > > due to the one 'FIX' Republicans attempted, the Medicare Prescription
> > > > > Drug program that did not help anyone who was not insured and
> > > > > cost $850 Billion a year at it's inception, this figure
> > > > > will climb as the Baby boomers retire all to give Viagra to the
> > > > > pension
> > > > > crowd.
>
> > > > > The Republicans rather than fixing the healthcare system actually
> > > > > have hurried up it's demise. Because of what the Republicans have
> > > > > done,
> > > > > Medicare and Medicaid will go bankrupt FASTER and the Baby Boomers
> > > > > will be left with FEWER options if any!
>
> > > > > The Democrats are trying to fix this with reform in the form
> > > > > of preventative care, which will lower FUTURE costs of medical care.
>
> > > > > Costs control by forcing the insurance and drug companies to offer
> > > > > lower priced care through competition.
>
> > > > > Finally actually offering Minimal low cost coverage for the uninsured
> > > > > and unemployed!
>
> > > > > Without these changes the fate of Healthcare will be similar to the
> > > > > collapse of the economy in the fall of 2008!
>
> > > > > So the GOP is using scare tactics similar to the tactics to get
> > > > > this country into war with Iraq. Scare Tactics based on lies, half
> > > > > truths
> > > > > and misinformation.
>
> > > > > The GOP is using their shock troops who still believe that President
> > > > > Obama
> > > > > was not born in the US despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary!
>
> > > > > These individuals are now using the same Birther reasoning to shout
> > > > > abuse at town halls in an attempt to show Congress that America is
> > > > > against Health care reform.
>
> > > > > These are the same people who thought....
>
> > > > > There were WMD's.
>
> > > > > Terri Schiavo was not brain dead.
>
> > > > > The was a connection between Iraq and 9/11.
>
> > > > > Al qaeda was in Iraq before the Iraq Invasion.
>
> > > > > Spying on Americans without a warrant is not against the law.
>
> > > > > The White House was not responsible for the Treasonous release
> > > > > of a covert CIA Operatives identity.
>
> > > > > The US not tortured Iraqis, some to death, and if they did it was to
> > > > > protect
> > > > > Americans, not to find a connection between Iraq and 9/11.
>
> > > > > Bush did protect Americans from the 9/11 attack
> > > > > even after ignoring several dozen warnings of a pending attack.
>
> > > > > I can go on and on , but lets skip to the latest lunatic fringe
> > > > > far right conspiracy which once again ignores the truth and the
> > > > > facts to tell the LIE, Obama is not an Native born American.
> > > > > The facts, a certified birth certificate and birth announcements
> > > > > in local papers announcing Obama's birth seem not to matter
> > > > > to the hate driven core racist of the GOP, the fools who believe
> > > > > ignorance trumps intelligence, and incompetence arrogance and
> > > > > ignorance are forgivable even if it costs American lives
>
> > > > > These are the people now giving advice on the Health Care solution!
>
> > > > > Enough is enough!
>
> > > > > If you want failure as we had the last 8 years, listen to Republicans,
>
> > > > > If you want the continued slow recovery and a future! Listen to the
> > > > > President and the Democrats!- Hide quoted text -
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