Mark,
Let me make it simpler for you, The Pentagon
DID NOT request the planes, the Repubs do not have the votes to stop
the Dems, some one in the Dem Congress approved the purchase of the
'not needed' planes, committee level or higher ( Pelosi ? ) . Pelosi
and her ilk railed against Corporate types utilizing their jets not
the Defense Dept. In this economy why would Pelosi and her ilk have
more legitimate reasons to buy three new $600,000,000 planes than the
corporate types. The Pentagon said only one to do their job and meet
commitments not three , " security " or otherwise !
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On Aug 7, 1:34 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
> So terrorism is not a problem and our representatives have nothing to worry
> about as a passenger aboard a commercial flight landing or taking off from
> Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, and countless other areas of the globe and
> transportation for their missions should be dictated by the very limited
> number of choices now available.
>
> That is EXACTLY what you are saying.
>
> And I am still waiting for a name from EITHER side of the aisle that
> objected to the purchase... where is that Republican list of names ???
>
> If they didn't object... they are complicit in the purchase.
>
> As to need there are presently only four distance capable jets available...
> this purchase raises that to a whopping seven.
>
> Air Force officials say at least 21 people can theoretically request to use
> the C-40s and there are only four of the planes. The 89th Airlift Wing at
> Andrews Air Force Base has two; the Air National Guard also has two.
>
> Those who can ask for the planes include the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of
> Staff, the Cabinet secretaries and seven commanders who oversee military
> operations around the world. In addition, the planes are regularly used to
> fly congressional delegations to military theaters.
>
> The Air Force's descriptions of the C-40 perhaps make the plane sound more
> elegant than it is. The seats are similar to those in commercial first-class
> cabins, and most have electrical outlets and Internet access.
>
> Hastert flew in the military's smaller jets: the C-20, a version of a
> 12-seat Gulfstream; the C-21, a version of a six-seat Learjet; and the C-37,
> a version of a 12-seat Gulfstream. Hastert, according to a military
> official, usually traveled with up to three staff members and two members of
> the Capitol Police. Occasionally his wife, Jean, came along too.
>
> The House sergeant at arms originally advised Pelosi that Hastert had used a
> military plane and recommended that she use one that didn't need to refuel.
> That prompted her office to request clarification of the rules, Daly said,
> noting that she never actually requested a specific plane.
>
> Daly acknowledged, however, that Pelosi has inquired whether family and
> friends can fly with her on business travel. A mother of five and
> grandmother of six, Pelosi's family often accompanies her on the road.
>
> Pelosi supporters charge that the controversy is being fueled by GOP
> opponents who are still burning over an election loss that stemmed from
> Pelosi's charges of a "culture of corruption" in Congress.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Richard,
>
> > My point is not who flies on them but the "
> > hypocrisy " of the democratic run congress in this matter relative to
> > their objection to Corporate types using their jets for business. It
> > is a well known fact that Nancy Pelosi is one of those who takes
> > advantage of these jets for herself and family members, but not one
> > liberal two faced democrat says boo ! At $600,000,000 a piece in this
> > economy it is waste. In that respect both you and Mark get an " F
> > " !
>
> > ******************************************************************************************************************************
>
> > On Aug 7, 12:52 pm, RICHARD BROWN <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > The Annointed One gets an "A" for the right response. This was an end-
> > > run around the transparency rules concerning earmarks. This was done
> > > under the "operating costs" provisions so no one gets to see who asked
> > > for it. But they are simply jets for high-ranking government
> > > employees or military commanders to get around without flying on
> > > commercial flights.
>
> > > On Aug 7, 9:34 am, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Mark,
>
> > > > Who's got the final say? The majority democrat
> > > > hypocrites vis a vis the same committee who railed against the Auto
> > > > officials jets.
>
> > ***************************************************************************
> > ****************************
>
> > > > On Aug 7, 12:23 pm, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Yes, i saw it... I am still waiting to hear which congressmen stood
> > up
> > > > > against this. the video does not refute the ownership and mission as
> > i
> > > > > stated...
>
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Mark,
>
> > > > > > If you view the video the Pentagon only requested
> > > > > > one jet and the Pelosi crowd forced on three @ $600,000,000 each.
> > The
> > > > > > Pentagon does not need that many and has extra post costs of upkeep
> > ,
> > > > > > people to staff the jets etc. Lets get it right the authorization
> > came
> > > > > > from someone at the top in congress! Peculiar especially when they
> > > > > > publicly humiliated the Auto officials for having corporate jets.
> > Just
> > > > > > another two faced double standard on the part of the liberal
> > > > > > socialists and their ilk.
>
> > ***************************************************************************
> > *********************************************
>
> > > > > > On Aug 7, 11:49 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > Lets try to at least get it correct.... these jets are world
> > flight
> > > > > > > capable. they are US Air Force property and are available to
> > ANYONE in
> > > > > > > Government to include the joint chiefs, Congress, cabinet
> > members, etc
> > > > > > > for missions that require non-stop flights.
>
> > > > > > > They are not reserved for the congress alone, nor are they a
> > departure
> > > > > > > from equipment type not already in service.
>
> > > > > > > now to get real....what a load of pork that neither democrat or
> > > > > > > republican voted against.
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 7, 9:43 am, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/05/pelosi_town_hall_pr.
> > > > > > ..
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