And another bingo!! frankg wrote: > Hollywood, > > Definitely not micro-managing, which is a good thing. However, to > jgg's point, one VTC in over two months is borderline "staying out of > it" and I would agree with jgg, given the criticality of the conflict > you would certainly expect the President would want to speak with his > top general a little more often. If he's going to make policy on > whether to send in more troops, move to a more selective targeting > role using UAV’s or pull out, shouldn't he be speaking extensively > with McChrystal before he does? ...or is party politics going to > factor more in these decisions? > > > On Sep 29, 10:26 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > >> dick, >> >> Oh please, don't tell me you are too freakin' dumb to understand the >> difference between micro-managing and "staying out of it". Not even >> you are THAT dull-witted. >> >> On Sep 29, 1:26 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> Quote: >>> >>> Hollywood wrote: >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jgg, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good. A President is NOT micro-managing the on-site CO and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> letting him >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do his job. This is how it should be. President Obama does not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> military background, remember? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Hollywood wrote: >>> >>>> dick, >>>> >>>> Really? Where exactly did I say that? >>>> You really DON'T understand the chain of command, do you? >>>> >>>> On Sep 28, 10:36 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No, you said he should stay out of it. >>>>> >>>>> Hollywood wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> dick, >>>>>> >>>>>> No shit the military is responsible to civilian leadership. That why >>>>>> it's the POTUS (Obama) that issues the orders and the military people >>>>>> carry them out. Isn't that what I just said? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 28, 9:32 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That is BS. The military is responsible to the civilians and the >>>>>>> highest office in the military is the CIC. He is the one who sets the >>>>>>> standards. He is the one who sets the general policies and the CO is >>>>>>> his representative in his office. Of course the president has the final >>>>>>> word. The CO asks for more troops and the president has to decide if >>>>>>> within his policies and within the realities of the situation more >>>>>>> troops are justified. If so, then he makes that decision. If no, then >>>>>>> he needs to talk to the CO to get settled what the policy should be. He >>>>>>> should not micromanage but he should set the basic policy. Why would I >>>>>>> then be screaming about his second-guessing. What he needs to do is >>>>>>> make the decision and then spend some of this huge amount of talking he >>>>>>> does to the country telling us what his policy is and why. This idiot >>>>>>> is trying to duck from making the decisions his job requires him to make >>>>>>> just as he has been ducking all the other decisions he should have been >>>>>>> making and selling to the public. OBAMA - One Big Assed Mistake, >>>>>>> America. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hollywood wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dick, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Simple. The CIC sets the standards, issues the orders and the military >>>>>>>> obeys them. You have never heard of the chain of command? >>>>>>>> He will get blamed by someone for something no matter what he does. If >>>>>>>> he was talking to the General every day people such as yourself would >>>>>>>> be screaming about his "second-guessing" and "micro-managing" the >>>>>>>> professional military people. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 28, 7:16 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regardless of whether he does or not he is the commander in chief and >>>>>>>>> sets the standards for what the military has to do. If he does not >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> a military background, then he should at the least be talking to his >>>>>>>>> on-site CO so he can get the information and support to set the >>>>>>>>> standards he is supposed to be doing. Obviously Zero wants nothing to >>>>>>>>> do with setting anything he can get blamed for. He wants to be the >>>>>>>>> Undecider who lets everyone else make his policies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How soon can we get rid of him!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hollywood wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> jgg, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good. A President is NOT micro-managing the on-site CO and letting >>>>>>>>>> him >>>>>>>>>> do his job. This is how it should be. President Obama does not have a >>>>>>>>>> military background, remember? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 28, 5:06 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> in 70 days... So much for giving the commander a direct uncensored >>>>>>>>>>> access to the President... Seems to me, a leader would want to >>>>>>>>>>> direct communication with such a key commander in Afghanistan... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/back-story/2009/sep/28/us-comm... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I’ve talked to the president, since I’ve been here, once on a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VTC [video teleconference]," Gen. Stanley McChrystal told CBS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reporter David Martin in a television interview that aired >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "You’ve talked to him once in 70 days?" 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