You need to man up Z, the lefties on DailyKos make you look like a sissy boy.
On Dec 1, 11:52 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > You're a moron, VT. Do you really think the scree you post shows any > real, cogent insight at all. > > >to capture or kill Bin Laden, that was the moment that a swift and > >long lasting victory against terrorism was forever lost. > > Really? THAT was "the moment?" Are you really dog shit stupid enough > to believe that killing Bin Laden, then or now, will destroy Islamic > terrorism? It is just as likely to elevate Bin Laden to martyr status > and INSPIRE MORE terrorism, in his name. Bin Laden should be brought > to justice (bound and set on fire) for what he did, but it is > childishly naive to think it will bring and end, or even curtail, > terrorism, in and of itself. > > But keep on trying to make excuses for Obama by pointing out that he > is so intellectually weak and craven that he can do little more than > look back and blame previous administrations for his problems. That IS > why you voted for him, isn't it? > > On Dec 1, 8:31 am, VT Sean Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The Afghan people deserve a real chance at Peace, > > that is why I support President Obama and the Troop increase. > > > Sean Lewis > > December 1, 2009 > > > The moment Rumsfeld denied the Military Generals request to > > send addition troops into Tora Bora to capture or kill > > Bin Laden, that was the moment that a swift and > > long lasting victory against terrorism was forever lost. > > > We have been fighting a mismanaged war of attrition > > and will ever since that moment. > > > The will of Al-Qaeda would have been crushed if > > Bin Laden had been quickly brought to justice. The > > exact opposite occurred when Bin laden was allowed to > > escape. It not only allowed Al-Qaeda to re-constitute > > itself but also energized multiple terrorist organizations > > through out the world. > > > These organizations now knew that not only could they > > strike at America, but they could also do so and live to > > reap the benefits of such a successful attack. > > > Had the US actually completed the task of capturing or > > killing Bin Laden the post war Afghanistan theater of > > operations would have been one of reconstruction not > > continued warfare. > > > Unfortunately this is not what occurred. > > > Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda found sanctuary in Pakistan > > and reestablished itself as a nebulous enemy with > > no central point to attack and thus be able to eradicate > > it. Such a swift and quick victory will never be available again. > > > In fact the ability to win militarily may no longer be an option. > > > This option was squandered by Rumsfeld, time, > > constant war, incompetence, torture and no clear plan or > > strategy have turned the population in Afghanistan into > > angry participants in a war not of their choosing. > > > What President Obama may be trying to do is to > > make an untenable situation at least salvageable. > > > To do this he is willing to do what the Bush Administration > > under Rumsfeld failed to done. > > > Fight the war the correct way with a clear strategy and > > exit. > > > Simply put, for 8 years the war was not fought to attain > > a long term victory, but merely to win in the short term. > > These are not the same things as time has clearly proven. > > > President Obama wants to try to correct a monumental > > mistake. To TRULY stabilize the region so that the population > > has a real opportunity to establish their own government > > that may be able to withstand the influence of both the > > Taliban and Al-Qaeda. > > > America had no business in trying to establish a US > > style democracy in another Country. This is a recipe > > for certain failure. > > > It is one thing to free a people from tyranny, but they will > > quickly reject their rescuers if they are merely shackled > > to another form of forced governance. > > > This is exactly what the Bush Administration did, they > > merely changed one form of forced governance for > > another, neither of which were the actual will of > > the Afghan people. > > > The best President Obama can hope for after 8 years > > of utter incompetent Presidential oversight in the > > execution of military action in Afghanistan, is a country that > > can remain stable and not once again come under the influence > > of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. > > > It is a long shot, but that doesn't mean the Afghan people > > do not deserve the opportunity to actually have the ability > > for real reform in a safe and stable environment that is > > created by overwhelming military force, securing the peace. > > >http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/1/81844/7221?new=true -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
