the goal is to stay prepared and have a plan, not encite a riot On Mar 9, 5:11 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > Nope, you've twisted things. What I said was Beck was not calling for > mob VIOLENCE, as the title of this thread would suggest. You jumped > in, and tried to suggest Beck was doing so by stirring up mobs, so I > merely pointed out both sides (and I didn't say who did it first) > incite mob mentality by similar approach, but that this does not > necessarily incite violence. Only you (and, I guess, Biff) are making > the leap to violence. > > On Mar 9, 5:14 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > frankg, > > > So, you to do not make any attempt to refute what I posted. I rest my > > case. > > > "BUT MAAAAAAW, THEY DID IT FIRST!!!" > > > On Mar 9, 2:43 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Not being innocent, being honest. How is what Beck's doing any > > > different from what the left wing media has been doing for years? > > > Beck is no more over the top with his analogies than, say, an > > > Olbermann is. His message of impending doom is no different than the > > > left's during the Bush administration. Both sides use fear and hate to > > > stir up mobs. It is you who is playing the innocent card, pretending > > > as if the left hasn't been doing this for years. Warmongering; climate > > > change; gay rights; civil liberties; gun rights; personal privacy... > > > the list goes on and on. The left has led an attack on the right and > > > presented the right as the devil. It's all about perspective. > > > > On Mar 9, 3:21 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > frankg, > > > > > Oh please, why pretend to be as innocent as a new born baby? That you > > > > have absolutely no idea whatsoever how propaganda works, no working > > > > knowledge whatsoever of human psychology, or mob pyscology. > > > > > Beck is doing his best to spread and encourage the notion that > > > > conservatives and just about everyone NOT a progressive (whateverthe > > > > fuck that is) is in immediate physical danger. > > > > Look at the names he uses, the analogies. What did "Isreali Nazi > > > > hunters" hunt? Anybody here not aware of the devastatingly brutal war > > > > we fought against Nazi germany? > > > > "Blood-sucking Vampires". What do you do to stop (in self-defense of > > > > course) a Vampire? You drive a stake through it's heart and cut off > > > > head. > > > > And blah-blah-blah-blah, so on and so forth. > > > > > Beck is doing the simplest thing in the world to stir up a mob and > > > > later be technically able bat to his eyes innocently and say "where > > > > did I call for violence?" He is convincing people that they are in > > > > immediate and mortal peril and must be prepared to defend themselves > > > > because the "evil ones" are going to attack at any momemt amd take > > > > their momey, and burn their barn and stampede the women and rape the > > > > cattle, etc. etc. > > > > > Next step? Some jackass, of group of them, remembers the old adage > > > > "the best defense is a good offense". > > > > > Beck ain't too bad at this, but he's no Edward bernays. Lucky for him > > > > his audiance is a dumb as a sack of fucking hammers so he'll probably > > > > get away with it. > > > > > On Mar 9, 8:51 am, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Biff, just curious... where does Beck call for Mob Violence as you > > > > > suggest? He asserts the Progressives will get more violent, but he > > > > > did not call for violence in return. Call him a whack job if you like, > > > > > but you should still be honest in your accusations. > > > > > > And if you object to the suggestion of violence, do you object to Bill > > > > > Maher's comment that he wishes it was Beck who was killed at the > > > > > Pentagon? > > > > > > On Mar 9, 12:49 am, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Follow the money...who pays scum beck his 50 million? If he ever > > > > > > ends > > > > > > up viewing a guillotine from the bottom it will operated by tea > > > > > > partiers, not progressives. > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 10:42 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Biff, > > > > > > > > What a complete fucking nut-job. > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 9:31 pm, Biff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Beck's website: "Progressives want you dead." On his website, > > > > > > > > Beck > > > > > > > > posted the headline: "Not 'useful'? Progressives want you dead" > > > > > > > > > Beck: Progressives "started a hundred-year time bomb, they > > > > > > > > planted it > > > > > > > > in the early 1900s." Purporting to discuss the history of > > > > > > > > progressivism, Beck claimed: "I saw their influence. I saw what > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > set up. They started a hundred-year time bomb, they planted it > > > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > early 1900s." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 1/7/2010] > > > > > > > > > Beck: "To the day I die, I am going to be a progressive hunter." > > > > > > > > Telling his audience that they "are going to learn so much on > > > > > > > > Friday," > > > > > > > > Beck compared himself to "Israeli Nazi hunters" and commented > > > > > > > > "I'm > > > > > > > > going to find these big progressives and to the day I die I'm > > > > > > > > going to > > > > > > > > be a progressive hunter." [Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn > > > > > > > > Beck > > > > > > > > Program, 1/20/2010] > > > > > > > > > Beck: Progressives "are sucking the blood out of the republic" > > > > > > > > and are > > > > > > > > "gonna start getting more and more violent." On his Fox News > > > > > > > > show, > > > > > > > > Beck stated that "the progressive movement is sucking the blood > > > > > > > > out of > > > > > > > > the republic" and that their "playbook" is to "lie, cheat, > > > > > > > > steal." On > > > > > > > > his radio show, Beck warned that progressive "vampires" have a > > > > > > > > "taste > > > > > > > > of blood" and are "gonna start getting more and more violent." > > > > > > > > > Beck: "Grab a torch." Asserting that politicians are addicted to > > > > > > > > spending, Beck stated: "When do we ever run those who are > > > > > > > > bankrupting > > > > > > > > our country and literally stealing our children's future out of > > > > > > > > town? > > > > > > > > Grab a torch." [Fox News' Glenn Beck, 1/6/2010] > > > > > > > > > Beck: "I fear a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another > > > > > > > > 9-11, > > > > > > > > something that will turn this machine on." During an interview > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > Newsmax.com in which he discussed opposition to Obama's Federal > > > > > > > > Communication Commission policies, Beck said: "I fear an event. > > > > > > > > I fear > > > > > > > > a Reichstag moment, a -- God forbid -- another 9-11, something > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > will turn this machine on, and power will be seized and voices > > > > > > > > will be > > > > > > > > silenced. God help us all.'' > > > > > > > > > Beck: "[Y]ou will have to shoot me in the forehead before you > > > > > > > > take > > > > > > > > away my gun" and "before I acquiesce and be silent." Beck warned > > > > > > > > "ACORN, GE, Obama, SEIU" were "awakening a sleeping giant, and > > > > > > > > I have > > > > > > > > nothing to do with it," adding: > > > > > > > > > BECK: America is waking up. You know the American Revolution > > > > > > > > took > > > > > > > > place with 12 percent of the population? Twelve. Are you > > > > > > > > telling me > > > > > > > > there is not 30 percent of this population that you will have > > > > > > > > to shoot > > > > > > > > me in the forehead before I let somebody into my house to tell > > > > > > > > me how > > > > > > > > to raise my children; you will have to shoot me in the forehead > > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > you take away my gun; you will have to shoot me in the forehead > > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > I acquiesce and be silent. [The Glenn Beck Program, 7/31/2009] > > > > > > > > > Beck: "This game is for keeps"; "[Y]ou can shoot me in the head > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > but there will be 10 others that line up." Asking his audience > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > "pray for protection," Beck claimed that "the most powerful > > > > > > > > people on > > > > > > > > the planet on the left" were "not going to go away easy" because > > > > > > > > "[t]his game is for keeps. This is who controls the United > > > > > > > > States of > > > > > > > > America and its destiny." He went on to state, "Just pray for > > > > > > > > protection, please." Beck subsequently stated: > > > > > > > > > BECK: You can try to put the lid on this group of people, but > > > > > > > > you will > > > > > > > > never silence us. You will never -- you can shoot me in the > > > > > > > > head, you > > > > > > > > can shoot the next guy in the head, but there will be 10 others > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > line up. And it may not happen today, it may not happen next > > > > > > > > week, but > > > > > > > > freedom will be restored in this land. Period. And no matter > > > > > > > > what you > > > > > > > > want to call it, it is a totalitarian state that you're headed > > > > > > > > towards. 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