Notice that Jim did not deny in his hissy fit earlier that he 1) never had a real job but was a tax tick
and 2) is paid to spam the net with his official State lies all day On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:03 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > The liar here would be you - the tax cuts were a part of the Stimulus LAW > passed last year. Now read this real slowly and re-read it until you get > it: the tax cuts were for *individuals AND for certain small businesses. > *You didn't qualify and you didn't get a larger-than-usual tax refund this > year? Bummer. > > In a message dated 5/17/2010 5:50:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > That's just a blatant lie, by our federal government. It would take me an > hour and a five page e-mail, maybe someone else can show in fifty words or > less, but my tax rate went up, and I make less than 250,000.00. All of > those individuals who are S Corporations and make 250K, or less went up, as > well as those who make more than 250k in their business. Period. > > > > > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:38 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, I still pay taxes on my retirement after paying taxes 21 years in >> the job I retired from. My job offered an early retirement and since, >> thanks to an inheritance from my late parents, I was able to buy my house >> outright I took it at age 55. Unless you make over $250,000/year your taxes >> were reduced. Period. >> >> In a message dated 5/17/2010 5:34:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Do you pay taxes Proud Liberal Number 7??? >> >> By no means am I rich, but I am paying more in taxes now, and I have >> worked for thirty-nine years, than I ever have before. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yup, time for the rich's free ride to end and for them to pay their >>> fair share of the freight. Bummer for them - I'm sure the millions they'll >>> have left AFTER taxes will put them straight into the poorhouse. Oh, the >>> agony! >>> >>> *Conservatives whine and Conservatives bitch* >>> *"Our rich are too poor and our poor are too rich!"* >>> >>> In a message dated 5/17/2010 5:24:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> [email protected] writes: >>> >>> The tax rate on who?? Despite the charges by liberals and >>> socialists that the tax cuts favored the “rich,” these cuts actually reduced >>> the tax burden of low- and middle-income taxpayers and shifted the tax >>> burden onto wealthier taxpayers. >>> >>> >>> Updated April 16, 2010 >>> Guess Who Didn't Pay Taxes On Tax Day >>> >>> By Elizabeth Factor and & Mallory Factor >>> >>> - FOXNews.com >>> >>> >>> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/16/elizabeth-factor-mallory-factor-federal-income-tax-tax-day-americans-democrats/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Progressive Democrats are using “tax reform” to create a group of >>> Americans who pay no federal income tax at all. >>> >>> Did you file your federal income taxes >>> <https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#> >>> >>> on or before April 15? Almost 50% of American households won’t be paying >>> any federal income tax this year, and the reasons why have profound >>> implications for our democracy as well as our economy now. >>> >>> A series of tax reforms, generous exemptions and tax credits, including >>> last year’s >>> economic<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#>stimulus >>> bill, have dropped millions of Americans from the federal tax >>> rolls. Huge numbers of Americans are simply no longer affected by the >>> federal income tax. The Tax Policy Center projects that 47 percent of all >>> U.S. households will pay no federal income tax for 2009. And, the bottom 40 >>> percent of income earners actually receive a *cash payment *from the >>> government at tax time. This cash payment is styled as a “refund” but it is >>> actually a net cash transfer from the government--not a refund of taxes >>> actually withheld on income. And for many Americans, this cash transfer from >>> Uncle Sam actually exceeds all federal, state and local taxes that they pay >>> in any form during the year including >>> sales<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#>taxes >>> and social security taxes. >>> >>> Of course, we are accustomed to the idea that high income earners pay >>> more in taxes both in absolute terms and as a percentage of their incomes. >>> But taxing only the top half of a society is not normal progressive >>> taxation. Instead, the recent changes to our tax system are an example of >>> politicians using the tax code for their own political ends. In this case, >>> the so-called progressive Democratic politicians are using “tax reform” to >>> grow their political base by creating a group of Americans that pay no >>> federal income tax. >>> >>> The people who don’t pay federal income taxes are, as the phrase goes, >>> “rational economic actors” just as much as anyone. Like all people, >>> non-taxpayers respond to economic incentives. Their demand for entitlements >>> and government programs is naturally insatiable because they don’t care at >>> all about the cost. Non-taxpayers don’t have any “skin in the game” and are >>> completely indifferent to the government raising income taxes. So they will >>> always support increasing government programs as a long as they get even a >>> small benefit from them because it does not cost them a cent. It’s also >>> perfectly rational for non-taxpayers to support politicians who favor more >>> spending. Non-taxpayers get something for nothing, at least until the >>> country becomes insolvent. >>> >>> The so-called progressive Democratic politicians are rational actors too. >>> By taking more and more Americans off the federal tax rolls, they are >>> creating a permanent base of supporters for themselves. These politicians >>> may claim to support increased government spending because of their concern >>> for the less-fortunate but--hey, it also happens to be in their own >>> political self-interest. And these politicians will continue to spend on >>> these programs until our nation goes bust because they want to keep their >>> jobs and grow expensive programs for their political base. >>> And what about the people paying all the federal taxes? Well, taxpayers >>> respond to incentives too. When faced with increasing tax rates, taxpayers >>> will reduce their income, which is why it is impossible to raise a lot of >>> revenue by increasing taxes above a certain point. As taxes on income rise, >>> taxpayers spend less time on work and more on leisure. They avoid sales of >>> investments and assets which could trigger income until they can pair them >>> with offsetting losses from other transactions. They spend billions of >>> dollars on tax advice and structuring to reduce their tax burden, which >>> makes economic sense for them but which is a waste of resources for our >>> society. In the aggregate, a tax system that is hostile to investment and >>> growth has a distortive effect which harms U.S. productivity and reduces the >>> standard of living of our whole nation. >>> >>> Under the Obama administration, many Americans accustomed to paying their >>> share of federal taxes are being taken off the tax rolls. Recent tax law >>> changes mean that for the first time, in 2009, a >>> family<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#>of >>> four making $50,000 can pay no federal income tax at all. This family may >>> not change its behavior and outlook immediately from its taxpaying days. But >>> the family’s economic incentives are now to keep America taxing and >>> spending. And a family at this income level has surely suffered in this >>> recession, but should they really pay *no federal income tax *at all? >>> >>> Ronald Reagan once said that a taxpayer is “someone who works for the >>> Federal government but doesn’t have to take the civil service examination.” >>> Every American should have to work for the federal government at least a >>> little bit. We need to move back to a broad-based tax system so that more >>> Americans understand that there is no such thing as free money—government >>> spending actually has a huge cost for our nation. >>> >>> The so-called "progressive" politicians have turned John Kennedy’s “Ask >>> not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country” >>> on its head. And telling so many Americans that they don’t need to make >>> sacrifices for our government, as we are now saying, is dangerous new >>> territory for our nation and for the health of our democracy and economy. >>> >>> *Elizabeth Factor is an international tax lawyer and former investment >>> banker.Mallory Factor is the co-chairman and co-founder of the Monday >>> Meeting, an influential meeting of economic conservatives, journalists and >>> corporate leaders in New York City. Mr. Factor is a well-known merchant >>> banker and speaks and writes frequently on economic and fiscal topics for >>> news stations, leading newspapers and other print and online publications. >>> Mr. Factor writes frequently for the Fox Forum. 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