Presence in the United states without permission is a civil
infraction. For it to be a criminal offience, the offender has to have
been deported.


That is assuming he/she acted alone.

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 2:23 PM, euwe <[email protected]> wrote:

> One of the most fundamental distinctions between civil and criminal
> law is in the notion of punishment.
>
> criminal law
> In criminal law, a guilty defendant is punished by either (1)
> incarceration in a jail or prison, (2) fine paid to the government,
> or, in exceptional cases, (3) execution of the defendant: the death
> penalty. Crimes are divided into two broad classes: felonies have a
> maximum possible sentence of more than one year incarceration,
> misdemeanors have a maximum possible sentence of less than one year
> incarceration.
>
> civil law
> In contrast, a defendant in civil litigation is never incarcerated and
> never executed. In general, a losing defendant in civil litigation
> only reimburses the plaintiff for losses caused by the defendant's
> behavior.
>
> So-called punitive damages are never awarded in a civil case under
> contract law. In a civil case under tort law, there is a possibility
> of punitive damages, if the defendant's conduct is egregious and had
> either (1) a malicious intent (i.e., desire to cause harm), (2) gross
> negligence (i.e., conscious indifference), or (3) a willful disregard
> for the rights of others. The use of punitive damages makes a public
> example of the defendant and supposedly deters future wrongful conduct
> by others. Punitive damages are particularly important in torts
> involving dignitary harms (e.g., invasion of privacy) and civil
> rights, where the actual monetary injury to plaintiff(s) may be
> small.
>
> One can purchase insurance that will pay damages and attorney's fees
> for tort claims. Such insurance coverage is a standard part of
> homeowner's insurance policies, automobile insurance, and insurance
> for businesses. In contrast, it is not possible for a defendant to
> purchase insurance to pay for his/her criminal acts.
>
> While a court can order a defendant to pay damages, the plaintiff may
> receive nothing if the defendant has no assets and no insurance, or if
> the defendant is skillful in concealing assets. In this way, large
> awards for plaintiffs in tort cases are often an illusion.
> -------------------
> Presence in the United states without permission is a civil
> infraction. For it to be a criminal offience, the offender has to have
> been deported.
>
> On May 23, 3:09 pm, euwe <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Immigration law is civil law; law enforcement never enforces civil
> > law,
> >
> > On May 23, 12:05 pm, Harry Beck <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >  I agree, therefore the name ILLEGAL aliens.
> >
> > >  Harry Beck
> > > Capt. US Army, Ret.
> > > Montrose, New York
> >
> > > Wherever you go, no matter what the weather, bring your own sunshine.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: plainolamerican <[email protected]>
> > > To: PoliticalForum <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sun, May 23, 2010 11:49 am
> > > Subject: Re: Illegal aliens are not criminals
> >
> > > yeah, I heard this defense from an ACLU lawyer once
> >
> > > those who break the law are considered criminals
> >
> > > On May 21, 3:05 pm, euwe <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Theirs is a civil infraction, not prosecutable in criminal courts
> > > > until they have been deported at least once.
> >
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