Re: This one is a can't make this stuff up - the Coast Guard looks stupid here

Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:41:56 -0700

This puts a totally different spin on the story. Why indeed would the CG have to contact the builders instead of the owners and the ship captains. Yet all the stories did say they were trying to contact the ship bulders. 
Blogger Hagar <http://www.blogger.com/profile/03653025261513705773> said...

   I just want to vent.

   Contrary to several headlines, the Coast Guard did *not* sideline
   the barges due to a lack of lifesaver vests on board. According to
   the articles below the headlines, they did it because they had not
   been able to contact the builder of the boats, presumably to arrange
   a time for inspection.
   (The situation being what it is, I would think they could just have
   gone down to the pier and asked the captains for permission to come
   aboard. Lifesaving equipment would be the business of the owners,
   not the builders, so I do not understand that either.)



euwe wrote:

I made the point - the Coast Guard has rules - the barges were in
violation, they were forced to comply. This is a nation of laws,
remember?

On Jun 18, 10:38 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

As usual you can't make your point at all.

euwe wrote:

Their job is clear, you are not.
On Jun 18, 10:22 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: 
Their job is to see that the equipment is there and then get out of the
way.  That is not what they did.   The ships doing the work were quite
capable of being supplied with what they had to have without the
inteference in the work they were doing.   After the feds have spent all
this time doing nothing, starting to get in the way is exactly the wrong
thing to do and that is what they did.   The feds kept La from building
the berms that would have protected the shores until finally the
governor just fuck it and started doing the job.   The feds were told 8
weeks ago that there were thousands of booms in Maine available to help
and they fluffed it off.   The feds were offered help form 13 different
countries and they fluffed that off as well.   Now the CG is pulling the
ships away from their work to see if they have equipment.   Why not just
say you have to have this equipment, get it and then finish what you are
doing.   That is what a normal, well adjusted boss would do to see
things got accom-plished.  Guess that is just too much for the feds to
understand - and also way too much for liberals to understand. Believe it or not the general public can walk and chew gum at the same 
time.   THe libs and the feds can't evidently.
euwe wrote: 
They don't look stupid - you do, for not realizing they were doing
their job.
On Jun 18, 10:06 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: 
The equipment could have been put on the ships in a minimum amount of
time and not interrupt the important tasks they were doing.   Your
excuse is totally ridiculous.   How long does it take to say you need x
amount of equipment - make sure it is there - and the locals can get it
done.   Instead they have to ground the ships, interrupt what is being
done to solve a major problem and in general make total asses of
themselves.   Just how much of a PR problem will the CG have now in that
area.   Every time they step up to do something, the first idea of those
they are dealing with is that these are the fools who grounded the ships
that were dealing with the oil spill.    There is a right way to do
these things and a wrong way and they picked the worst possible way. Of course you with your love the government inteference in the rights of 
the public would love this but anyone with a lick of sense would see
what is wrong with what they did.
euwe wrote: 
the ships were inspected and grounded because they did not have the
proper fire-fighting and life-saving equipment. There were also
concerns about the stability of the barges. During the day Thursday,
the problems were fixed,
Read more:http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/18/coast-guard-defends-grounding-oil-s... 
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I don't think it's the coast guard that looks stupid here.
On Jun 18, 9:20 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: 
June 17th, 2010 9:25 pm
A Frozen Moment of a Nightmare This one's too stupid 
<http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-gov-bobby-jindals-wishes-crude/...> for 
/The
Twilight Zone/ --- it could only be from /Night Gallery/. The Coast
Guard has shut down one of Louisianas oil cleaning operations, and youll
never guess the reason. Read, jaw dropped:
The Coast Guard came and shut them down, Jindal said. You got men on 
    the barges in the oil, and they have been told by the Coast Guard,
    Cease and desist. Stop sucking up that oil.
A Coast Guard representative told ABC News today that it shares the 
    same goal as the governor.
We are all in this together. The enemy is the oil, said Coast Guard 
    Lt. Cmdr. Dan Lauer.
But the Coast Guard ordered the stoppage because of reasons that 
    Jindal found frustrating. The Coast Guard needed to confirm that
    there were fire extinguishers and life vests on board, and then it
    had trouble contacting the people who built the barges.
"Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" has been replaced with "Safety 
first, last and only!" and in the middle (?) of our worst-ever
environmental disaster.
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      1. ic
"Safety first, last and only!" Safety my foot. The mighty One wanted to show that funny looking 
      guv of a loser state who's boss.
What prevented the Coast Guards from boarding the damned barges to 
      check them out?
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      2. MichaelnotMike
This would have been a great opportunity for Jindal to show them 
      up. He should ask the Coast Guard how many life preservers and
      fire extinguishers are needed, purchase that amount and make a
      show of delivering them to the boats. (I realize the article
      probably left out some important details.)
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      3. RPD
Time to call out the State's National Guard troops, to defend the 
      barges from ... er... the US Coast Guard.
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      4. Mike
Damn the Torpedoes? It's an oil spill not the Battle of Manilla 
      Bay, Go easy on the Coast Guard, they're doing their job
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      5. Mike Kistle
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      6. Larry J
While I have a lot of respect for the Coast Guard, they do come 
      off looking bad in this one. How long would it take to actually
      inspect each of the barges and count the life preservers and fire
      extinguishers? An hour, maybe two? So what's stopping them? Don't
      just stop the barges because they don't know if there are life
      preservers on board, go and check!
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