"proper life saving equipment" can't be any clearer. On Jun 18, 12:33 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Again - they did not say there was no fire fighting and life saving > equipment on board nor did they say the equipment on board was > insufficient. They said it di not fit the brands and quantities the CG > got paid off to require. Again. That is a big difference. It boils > down to what the CG thinks is required and what the crews and states > think is required. > > euwe wrote: > > Who said they were not safe. > > ------------ > > The coast guard. The ships were inspected and grounded "because they > > did not have the proper fire-fighting and life-saving equipment." > > > On Jun 18, 12:09 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Who said they were not safe. They may not have had all the equipment > >> the CG wanted them to have but that has nothing to do with whether they > >> are safe or not. > > >> euwe wrote: > > >>> The governor should have made them safe before sending them out. > > >>> On Jun 18, 11:31 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> The state has rules too. The governor of the state sent the barges out > >>>> there to do a job and they were doing it under his direction - and he is > >>>> the head of the state. The CG was just playing games with their > >>>> supposed authority and as the other story from ABC News shows they > >>>> backed down when they saw the results of their meddling. You > >>>> apparently are not bright enough to do the same. > > >>>> euwe wrote: > > >>>>> I made the point - the Coast Guard has rules - the barges were in > >>>>> violation, they were forced to comply. This is a nation of laws, > >>>>> remember? > > >>>>> On Jun 18, 10:38 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> As usual you can't make your point at all. > > >>>>>> euwe wrote: > > >>>>>>> Their job is clear, you are not. > > >>>>>>> On Jun 18, 10:22 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> Their job is to see that the equipment is there and then get out of > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> way. That is not what they did. The ships doing the work were > >>>>>>>> quite > >>>>>>>> capable of being supplied with what they had to have without the > >>>>>>>> inteference in the work they were doing. After the feds have spent > >>>>>>>> all > >>>>>>>> this time doing nothing, starting to get in the way is exactly the > >>>>>>>> wrong > >>>>>>>> thing to do and that is what they did. The feds kept La from > >>>>>>>> building > >>>>>>>> the berms that would have protected the shores until finally the > >>>>>>>> governor just fuck it and started doing the job. The feds were > >>>>>>>> told 8 > >>>>>>>> weeks ago that there were thousands of booms in Maine available to > >>>>>>>> help > >>>>>>>> and they fluffed it off. The feds were offered help form 13 > >>>>>>>> different > >>>>>>>> countries and they fluffed that off as well. Now the CG is pulling > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> ships away from their work to see if they have equipment. Why not > >>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>> say you have to have this equipment, get it and then finish what you > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> doing. That is what a normal, well adjusted boss would do to see > >>>>>>>> things got accom-plished. Guess that is just too much for the feds > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> understand - and also way too much for liberals to understand. > >>>>>>>> Believe it or not the general public can walk and chew gum at the > >>>>>>>> same > >>>>>>>> time. THe libs and the feds can't evidently. > > >>>>>>>> euwe wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> They don't look stupid - you do, for not realizing they were doing > >>>>>>>>> their job. > > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 10:06 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> The equipment could have been put on the ships in a minimum amount > >>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> time and not interrupt the important tasks they were doing. Your > >>>>>>>>>> excuse is totally ridiculous. How long does it take to say you > >>>>>>>>>> need x > >>>>>>>>>> amount of equipment - make sure it is there - and the locals can > >>>>>>>>>> get it > >>>>>>>>>> done. Instead they have to ground the ships, interrupt what is > >>>>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>>>> done to solve a major problem and in general make total asses of > >>>>>>>>>> themselves. Just how much of a PR problem will the CG have now > >>>>>>>>>> in that > >>>>>>>>>> area. Every time they step up to do something, the first idea of > >>>>>>>>>> those > >>>>>>>>>> they are dealing with is that these are the fools who grounded the > >>>>>>>>>> ships > >>>>>>>>>> that were dealing with the oil spill. There is a right way to do > >>>>>>>>>> these things and a wrong way and they picked the worst possible > >>>>>>>>>> way. > >>>>>>>>>> Of course you with your love the government inteference in the > >>>>>>>>>> rights of > >>>>>>>>>> the public would love this but anyone with a lick of sense would > >>>>>>>>>> see > >>>>>>>>>> what is wrong with what they did. > > >>>>>>>>>> euwe wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> the ships were inspected and grounded because they did not have > >>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> proper fire-fighting and life-saving equipment. There were also > >>>>>>>>>>> concerns about the stability of the barges. During the day > >>>>>>>>>>> Thursday, > >>>>>>>>>>> the problems were fixed, > > >>>>>>>>>>> Read > >>>>>>>>>>> more:http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/18/coast-guard-defends-grounding-oil-s... > >>>>>>>>>>> ----------- > >>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's the coast guard that looks stupid here. > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 9:20 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> June 17th, 2010 9:25 pm > > >>>>>>>>>>>> A Frozen Moment of a Nightmare > > >>>>>>>>>>>> This one's too stupid > >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-gov-bobby-jindals-wishes-crude/...> > >>>>>>>>>>>> for /The > >>>>>>>>>>>> Twilight Zone/ --- it could only be from /Night Gallery/. The > >>>>>>>>>>>> Coast > >>>>>>>>>>>> Guard has shut down one of Louisianas oil cleaning operations, > >>>>>>>>>>>> and youll > >>>>>>>>>>>> never guess the reason. Read, jaw dropped: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> The Coast Guard came and shut them down, Jindal said. You > >>>>>>>>>>>> got men on > >>>>>>>>>>>> the barges in the oil, and they have been told by the Coast > >>>>>>>>>>>> Guard, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cease and desist. Stop sucking up that oil. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> A Coast Guard representative told ABC News today that it > >>>>>>>>>>>> shares the > >>>>>>>>>>>> same goal as the governor. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> We are all in this together. The enemy is the oil, said > >>>>>>>>>>>> Coast Guard > >>>>>>>>>>>> Lt. Cmdr. Dan Lauer. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> But the Coast Guard ordered the stoppage because of reasons > >>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>> Jindal found frustrating. The Coast Guard needed to confirm > >>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>> there were fire extinguishers and life vests on board, and > >>>>>>>>>>>> then it > >>>>>>>>>>>> had trouble contacting the people who built the barges. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" has been replaced with > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Safety > >>>>>>>>>>>> first, last and only!" and in the middle (?) of our worst-ever > >>>>>>>>>>>> environmental disaster. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Heads should roll --- but likely won't. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Comment <#write_a_comment> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Bookmark and Share <http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Digg <?email=1> Print > >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-n...> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Digg PJM Home </> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Pajamas Media appreciates your comments that abide by the > >>>>>>>>>>>> following > >>>>>>>>>>>> guidelines: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. 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If you feel your > >>>>>>>>>>>> comment was > >>>>>>>>>>>> filtered inappropriately, please email us at > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 6 Comments, 6 Threads > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. > >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. ic > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Safety first, last and only!" > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Safety my foot. The mighty One wanted to show that funny > >>>>>>>>>>>> looking > >>>>>>>>>>>> guv of a loser state who's boss. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> What prevented the Coast Guards from boarding the damned > >>>>>>>>>>>> barges to > >>>>>>>>>>>> check them out? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> June 17, 2010 - 11:52 pm Link to this Comment > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-n...> > >>>>>>>>>>>> | Reply > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> </vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-nightmare/?replytocom=107284#respond> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. > > ... > > read more »
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