Who said they were not safe. ------------ The coast guard. The ships were inspected and grounded "because they did not have the proper fire-fighting and life-saving equipment."
On Jun 18, 12:09 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Who said they were not safe. They may not have had all the equipment > the CG wanted them to have but that has nothing to do with whether they > are safe or not. > > euwe wrote: > > The governor should have made them safe before sending them out. > > > On Jun 18, 11:31 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> The state has rules too. The governor of the state sent the barges out > >> there to do a job and they were doing it under his direction - and he is > >> the head of the state. The CG was just playing games with their > >> supposed authority and as the other story from ABC News shows they > >> backed down when they saw the results of their meddling. You > >> apparently are not bright enough to do the same. > > >> euwe wrote: > > >>> I made the point - the Coast Guard has rules - the barges were in > >>> violation, they were forced to comply. This is a nation of laws, > >>> remember? > > >>> On Jun 18, 10:38 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> As usual you can't make your point at all. > > >>>> euwe wrote: > > >>>>> Their job is clear, you are not. > > >>>>> On Jun 18, 10:22 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> Their job is to see that the equipment is there and then get out of the > >>>>>> way. That is not what they did. The ships doing the work were quite > >>>>>> capable of being supplied with what they had to have without the > >>>>>> inteference in the work they were doing. After the feds have spent > >>>>>> all > >>>>>> this time doing nothing, starting to get in the way is exactly the > >>>>>> wrong > >>>>>> thing to do and that is what they did. The feds kept La from building > >>>>>> the berms that would have protected the shores until finally the > >>>>>> governor just fuck it and started doing the job. The feds were told 8 > >>>>>> weeks ago that there were thousands of booms in Maine available to help > >>>>>> and they fluffed it off. The feds were offered help form 13 different > >>>>>> countries and they fluffed that off as well. Now the CG is pulling > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> ships away from their work to see if they have equipment. Why not > >>>>>> just > >>>>>> say you have to have this equipment, get it and then finish what you > >>>>>> are > >>>>>> doing. That is what a normal, well adjusted boss would do to see > >>>>>> things got accom-plished. Guess that is just too much for the feds to > >>>>>> understand - and also way too much for liberals to understand. > >>>>>> Believe it or not the general public can walk and chew gum at the same > >>>>>> time. THe libs and the feds can't evidently. > > >>>>>> euwe wrote: > > >>>>>>> They don't look stupid - you do, for not realizing they were doing > >>>>>>> their job. > > >>>>>>> On Jun 18, 10:06 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> The equipment could have been put on the ships in a minimum amount of > >>>>>>>> time and not interrupt the important tasks they were doing. Your > >>>>>>>> excuse is totally ridiculous. How long does it take to say you > >>>>>>>> need x > >>>>>>>> amount of equipment - make sure it is there - and the locals can get > >>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>> done. Instead they have to ground the ships, interrupt what is > >>>>>>>> being > >>>>>>>> done to solve a major problem and in general make total asses of > >>>>>>>> themselves. Just how much of a PR problem will the CG have now in > >>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>> area. Every time they step up to do something, the first idea of > >>>>>>>> those > >>>>>>>> they are dealing with is that these are the fools who grounded the > >>>>>>>> ships > >>>>>>>> that were dealing with the oil spill. There is a right way to do > >>>>>>>> these things and a wrong way and they picked the worst possible way. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Of course you with your love the government inteference in the > >>>>>>>> rights of > >>>>>>>> the public would love this but anyone with a lick of sense would see > >>>>>>>> what is wrong with what they did. > > >>>>>>>> euwe wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> the ships were inspected and grounded because they did not have the > >>>>>>>>> proper fire-fighting and life-saving equipment. There were also > >>>>>>>>> concerns about the stability of the barges. During the day Thursday, > >>>>>>>>> the problems were fixed, > > >>>>>>>>> Read > >>>>>>>>> more:http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/18/coast-guard-defends-grounding-oil-s... > >>>>>>>>> ----------- > >>>>>>>>> I don't think it's the coast guard that looks stupid here. > > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 9:20 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> June 17th, 2010 9:25 pm > > >>>>>>>>>> A Frozen Moment of a Nightmare > > >>>>>>>>>> This one's too stupid > >>>>>>>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-gov-bobby-jindals-wishes-crude/...> > >>>>>>>>>> for /The > >>>>>>>>>> Twilight Zone/ --- it could only be from /Night Gallery/. The Coast > >>>>>>>>>> Guard has shut down one of Louisianas oil cleaning operations, and > >>>>>>>>>> youll > >>>>>>>>>> never guess the reason. Read, jaw dropped: > > >>>>>>>>>> The Coast Guard came and shut them down, Jindal said. You got > >>>>>>>>>> men on > >>>>>>>>>> the barges in the oil, and they have been told by the Coast > >>>>>>>>>> Guard, > >>>>>>>>>> Cease and desist. Stop sucking up that oil. > > >>>>>>>>>> A Coast Guard representative told ABC News today that it > >>>>>>>>>> shares the > >>>>>>>>>> same goal as the governor. > > >>>>>>>>>> We are all in this together. The enemy is the oil, said Coast > >>>>>>>>>> Guard > >>>>>>>>>> Lt. Cmdr. Dan Lauer. > > >>>>>>>>>> But the Coast Guard ordered the stoppage because of reasons > >>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>> Jindal found frustrating. The Coast Guard needed to confirm > >>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>> there were fire extinguishers and life vests on board, and > >>>>>>>>>> then it > >>>>>>>>>> had trouble contacting the people who built the barges. > > >>>>>>>>>> "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" has been replaced with > >>>>>>>>>> "Safety > >>>>>>>>>> first, last and only!" and in the middle (?) of our worst-ever > >>>>>>>>>> environmental disaster. > > >>>>>>>>>> Heads should roll --- but likely won't. > > >>>>>>>>>> Comment <#write_a_comment> > >>>>>>>>>> Bookmark and Share <http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php> > >>>>>>>>>> Digg <?email=1> Print > >>>>>>>>>> <http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-n...> > >>>>>>>>>> Digg PJM Home </> > > >>>>>>>>>> Pajamas Media appreciates your comments that abide by the following > >>>>>>>>>> guidelines: > > >>>>>>>>>> 1. 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If you feel your comment > >>>>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>>>> filtered inappropriately, please email us at [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. > > >>>>>>>>>> 6 Comments, 6 Threads > > >>>>>>>>>> 1. > >>>>>>>>>> 1. ic > > >>>>>>>>>> "Safety first, last and only!" > > >>>>>>>>>> Safety my foot. The mighty One wanted to show that funny > >>>>>>>>>> looking > >>>>>>>>>> guv of a loser state who's boss. > > >>>>>>>>>> What prevented the Coast Guards from boarding the damned > >>>>>>>>>> barges to > >>>>>>>>>> check them out? > > >>>>>>>>>> June 17, 2010 - 11:52 pm Link to this Comment > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-n...> > >>>>>>>>>> | Reply > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> </vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-nightmare/?replytocom=107284#respond> > >>>>>>>>>> 2. > >>>>>>>>>> 2. MichaelnotMike > > >>>>>>>>>> This would have been a great opportunity for Jindal to show > >>>>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>>>> up. He should ask the Coast Guard how many life preservers > >>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> fire extinguishers are needed, purchase that amount and make > >>>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>>> show of delivering them to the boats. (I realize the article > >>>>>>>>>> probably left out some important details.) > > >>>>>>>>>> June 18, 2010 - 5:48 am Link to this Comment > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-n...> > >>>>>>>>>> | Reply > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> </vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-nightmare/?replytocom=107289#respond> > >>>>>>>>>> 3. > >>>>>>>>>> 3. RPD > > >>>>>>>>>> Time to call out the State's National Guard troops, to > >>>>>>>>>> defend the > >>>>>>>>>> barges from ... er... the US Coast Guard. > > >>>>>>>>>> June 18, 2010 - 7:28 am Link to this Comment > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <http://pajamasmedia.com/vodkapundit/2010/06/17/a-frozen-moment-of-a-n...> > >>>>>>>>>> | Reply > > ... > > read more » -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
