In the case of the Greek Orthodox church, it would replace one that
was destroyed by 9/11 and that had been on that site for generations.
They should be entitled to rebuild there but the District Board won't
give approval for some reason. Can you say the same for this mosque?
As to the financial hurdles, the mosque was supposed to actually be in
position to own the building site in order to get approval. They
implied that the did at the hearing but in fact they do not and are way
behind in getting contributions that would enable them to purchase the
site. They do not have the money. The imam is being sent all over the
Islamic world by our State Dept. While he is there on our dime he is
not to do fund raising and yet he has done precisely that which is illegal.
Good reasons all to stop the mosque IMNSHO. YMMV but then you are
trying to hide your support for the mosque. Kinda like all the
"independents" who comment on political websites who claim they have not
made up their minds but then you find that in over 40 years of voting
they have never voted for a Republican even when they admitted the
Republican was the better candidate.
On 09/07/2010 10:30 AM, nominal9 wrote:
I don't have any personal truck or baggage with the Mosque issue,
either for or against it. Can you say the same?
It seems to me that, so far, those trying to build it have met all
legal hurdles, whether they meet all of the financial or whatever
other "ordinary" hurdles that remain is for them to accomplish, if
they can.
I went back and read the Nat Hentoff article from Jewish World
Review. I hope we can at least agree that "they" are "extraordinarily"
against giving the Mosque and its builders a fair and equal
opportunity at accomplishing their goal... You tell me, Dick
Thompson... why (for what reasons) do you say that Nat Hentoff and
Jewish World Review write or state that they are aginst the Mosque....
or, to put a finer point on it.....Why would you apparently prefer a
Greek Orthodox Church to a Mosque, there?
nominal9
On Sep 4, 5:31 pm, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote:
I fail to see why you are so involved in the Mosque question.
Given what you claim then you should first of all be striving to get
permission for the Greek Orthodox church in that area to be rebuilt
first since it was in existence for several generations in that location
until destroyed by the Muslims and 9/11. Apparently that means nothing
to you. Neither does the fact that the people trying to build the
mosque do not have funding nor do they, as they are legally required to
do, have ownership and likelihood of ownership of the site they are
trying to develop. You do not seem to pay any attention to what the
Imam has said in the past about Al Qaeda and the US and who to
support. You hear nothing from them about stopping the terrorist
behavior of the extreme muslims. For that matter you don't hear much
from ANY muslims about stopping the terrorists. You, nominal9, don't
seem to think this is something that shold be pursued. Instead you try
to come up with some kitschy takeoff on your betters by far and then pat
yourself on the back for being original.
On 09/03/2010 01:21 PM, nominal9 wrote:
I think you are wrong, dick thompson, but it will take time to try to
explain it to you... if you are willing to hear it or credit it at all
from your end, that is.... which must be taken into consideration, as
well...
Anti-semitic? some have called me that..... I happen to think that
every race or ethnicity (or whatever) is prone to its own number of
racist individuals..... I DO NOT EXCLUDE some Jews from the ranks of
the racists....I call the particular Racist Jews among the overall
group or number of Jews in general..... ZIONIST RACIST JEWS....
Many years ago, now I died a parody of the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance
to the Flag... I called it the Rush Lmbaugh Pledge of Allegiance...
here's how it goes:
" pledge allegiange to the Star of David of the Zionist State of
Israel
and to the Racist Oligarchy for which it stands
One Kingdom under the ineffable Yahweh
Exlusive, with criminal license and prejudgment in favor just of
Jews."
When some hear this.... they wail... anti-Semite.... but hey, I say
(and am) just the opposite... I am anti-Racist....
Nice to meet you Dick Thompson
nominal9
PS... this is really old ground for me, that I get weary of having to
re-tread sometimes......but I just want to lay my cards on the table
for you, in the hopes of getting beyond all the usual buggaboos and
the rhetorical as well as the propaganda feints and tricks....
On Sep 2, 1:25 pm, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote:
As usual you are reading the point wrong. Nobody is saying that MSNBC
doing it is justified by your claim that Hentoff is doing it. The
point is that something is either wrong in its entirety or not wrong in
its entirety when it comes to these points. You want to selectively
call dibs on Hentoff and then call anyone who does not believe as you do
funny names and think you are beng witty. fAIL!! If something is
wrong, point out where it is wrong and then point out also that it is
wrong for others to do the same thing. That is what you are missing.
YOu are against Hentoff and Jewish World Review and the reason is they
don't believe as you do and therefore you have a name for them - and
chances are it would be an antisemitic name. And no, I am not Jewish.
On 09/02/2010 12:57 PM, nominal9 wrote:> Ohh.... It made perfect
sense......Annointed one......
The trouble with"comparisons"... or similes... or metaphors is that
"one" should always be careful to "weigh " the terms of the proposed
comparison.... make sure that they actually do equal up......
Now, between Nat Heltoff and the Jewihh World review on the one side
of the scale as counterbalanced by MSNBC on the other.... frankly. I
would say that Nat and the Jewish World Review have a heavier
comparative load of bias or prejudice, especially on Middle East
issues.... Perhaps a more equal comparison would be Fox News as
weighed against MSNBC, there the load or bias or prejudice would
probably be a little more balancing "left vs right" on both sides...
but the Middle East issue is a little funny..... it doesn't track
along strict political lines.....
Anyway.... let's get back to my own metaphorical .... "Jimmy can do it
but why can't I" ...rhetorical defense that I charge was adopted by
Dick Thompson. First, it is more a charge of "rhetorical device" used
than of a strict metaphor, in this instance, I think. The Mommy
implied reply is, "I don't care what Jimmy does.... it is wrong for
Jimmy to do it as well and Jimmy just doesn't have very good parents
that care enough for him or correct him"......
The trouble with "metaphorical or even this sort of "whiny ... they do
it, too... defense is that the underlying problem is that something
that is "wrong" is justified by at best another "wrong"....
but what do I know.....
:"Annointed One" Eh.... sounds like a Sean Hannity follower.....
Man... you should hear some of my old gags against Sean... especially
my "nick-name" for him.....
nominal9
On Aug 31, 12:49 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE<[email protected]> wrote:
Nominal9,
Even in context your post made little sense. could you try to be a
little more literate ?? Mr. Thompson made a comparison NOT a defense.
On Aug 31, 10:29 am, nominal9<[email protected]> wrote:
What's that... your ......"Mommy.... Jimmy can do it so why can't
I?".... defense?
nominal9
On Aug 30, 3:41 pm, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote:
As opposed to The Nation or MSNBC or the NYT or WaPo? Definitely not
more biased than these other medias are. They wrote the book on bias
along with CBS.
On 08/30/2010 03:20 PM, nominal9 wrote:
Every weekday JewishWorldReview.com publishes what many in the media
and
Washington consider "must-reading". Sign up for the daily JWR update.
It's free. Just click here.
Nat Hentoff is a nationally renowned authority on the First Amendment
and the Bill of Rights and author of several books, including his
current work, "The War on the Bill of Rights and the Gathering
Resistance". Comment by clicking here. / article
Sad to say... as a "nationally renowned authority on the First
Amendment"... Nat Hentoff has become more than a dissappointment in
his support of "freedom of speech" in his older age... he has become
nearly the contrary to an advocate for it... Nat has become a turncoat
and a proponent of "censorship" as a needed "exception" to "freedom of
speech" in many cases... especially in cases that criticize aspects of
Zionist Racism in Israel....
As for the publication, Jewish World Review.... enough said.... don't
you think that there may well be some slight bias or "slant" in their
opinions on this matter?
On Aug 29, 4:00 am, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote:
Nat Hentoff is well known for being a staunch supporter of the US
Constitution and especially the first amendment rights. He really tells
it like it is here.
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