Before burning a koran one should have a dog urinate on it. It slows the burn a bit and takes the muzzieshit smell out. / Travis
Ain't Freedom of Speech grand, Travis?.. I tried to post on this topic yesterday, don't know is it took. I defend this pastor's right to make his "statement"... just like I defend the right of all the Muslims, everywhere, to counterprotest (hopefully in an non-lethal manner... which isn't covered by the First Amendment - right?). So, Travis... what do you think about the Petraeus statement against it on the grounds that it would put U.S. and coalition soldiers in harm's way? I mean, usually, that's a charge that is made against the left or the anti-military folks..... Me, I would not burn it, myself..... nominal9 On Sep 8, 2:10 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > Before burning a koran one should have a dog urinate on it. It slows the > burn a bit and takes the muzzieshit smell out. > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > *Burning the Quran is like yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. > > Afghanistan and Iraq are the theaters crowded with American soldiers. Pastor > > Terry Jones is waiting for a "clear message from God" to call off this book > > burning on Saturday 9-11. Lets hope God speaks up, or that Pastor Jones > > thinks he did. -T* > > > Clinton slams Florida pastor for 'disgraceful' plans > > By *the CNN Wire Staff* > > September 8, 2010 12:23 p.m. EDT > > [image: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she thinks we "have a > > real shot" at successful Middle East peace talks.] > > Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she thinks we "have a real shot" at > > successful Middle East peace talks. > > *STORY HIGHLIGHTS* > > > - Hillary Clinton speaks before Council on Foreign Relations > > - Clinton slams Bush's fiscal record, saying irresponsibility harms > > U.S. security > > - She urges Senate passage of the START nuclear arms reduction treaty > > - Clinton says sanctions against Iran are starting to take hold > > > *RELATED TOPICS* > > > - Hillary Clinton <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Hillary_Clinton> > > - Foreign Policy <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Foreign_Policy> > > - Islam <http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Islam> > > > *Washington (CNN)* -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton used a foreign > > policy talk to weigh in on hot-button political issues Wednesday, slamming a > > Florida pastor for his "disgraceful" plan to burn the Quran and strongly > > criticizing George W. Bush's fiscal record. > > > Clinton warned about the long-term consequences of rising federal budget > > deficits, arguing that they will eventually diminish U.S. power and impair > > America's ability to act effectively in the global arena. > > > Her remarks came during an appearance before the nonpartisan Council on > > Foreign Relations. > > > Clinton noted that Terry Jones, the Florida pastor, is the head of a small > > congregation and said she wished that his plans to burn the Quran on the > > anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks hadn't attracted so much > > media attention. But sadly, "that's the world we live in right now," she > > said. > > > Jones' plans could harm U.S. troops, she asserted, echoing a recent warning > > from Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan. > > > The pastor's plan doesn't represent broader American views on Islam, > > Clinton declared. "It's not who we are," she said. > > > Clinton also slammed Jones' plans on Tuesday night at a State Department > > dinner in honor of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. > > > Jones has rebuffed pleas to call off the event, saying that radical > > Islamists are the target of his message. > > > On fiscal matters, Clinton had harsh words for Bush. Cutting taxes while > > fighting wars in Afghanistan and Iraq without paying for them was a "deadly > > combination" in terms of "fiscal sanity," she said. > > > "Responsible" authorities on fiscal matters "are not being heard right > > now," she warned. "There is no free lunch, and we can't pretend that there > > is ... without doing great harm" to the country. > > > Republicans have tried to turn the tables on Democrats in recent months on > > the issue of fiscal responsibility, arguing that the administration's fiscal > > stimulus plans have significantly added to the national debt while failing > > to effectively restore economic growth. > > > Clinton also expressed frustration with the treatment of sensitive foreign > > policy issues in domestic politics, urging a partisan "détente" that cuts > > "across the partisan divide." > > > Among other things, she cited the START nuclear arms reduction treaty, > > which is slated to be taken up by the Senate in September but faces > > significant opposition among key Republicans. > > > The treaty has become a "political issue," she said, but "I wish it > > weren't." The accord is seen in Europe as an important symbol of America's > > commitment to work with Russia, she said. > > > Turning to the Middle East, Clinton said she thinks we "have a real shot" > > at a successful conclusion to the new Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. > > > On efforts to block Iran's nuclear program, Clinton said the United States > > believes Tehran "is beginning to feel the full impact" of recently imposed > > sanctions. > > > "International financial and commercial sectors are ... starting to > > recognize the risks of doing business with Iran," she told the Council on > > Foreign Relations. > > > Sanctions "are the building blocks of leverage for a negotiated solution," > > she said. "We will see how Iran decides." > > > The United States has repeatedly lobbied other nations to step up sanctions > > against Iran. The European Union, Canada, Japan and South Korea are among > > those that have done so. > > > Iran, however, is continuing its uranium enrichment activities in defiance > > of U.N. Security Council resolutions, according to a report released Monday > > by the International Atomic Energy Agency. > > > Iran has rebuffed international demands to halt its uranium enrichment > > program, saying it wants the nuclear fuel for peaceful uses. IAEA officials, > > however, have not been convinced. > > More: > >http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/08/clinton.foreign.policy/ > > > -- > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > > Have a great day, > > Tommy > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > * Visit our other community > > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > > * It's active and moderated. 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