"The vote was 56 to 43, with Democrats falling short of the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/f/filibusters_and_debate_curbs/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier>and take up the bill. The Arkansas Democrats, Senators Blanche L. Lincoln and Mark Pryor, sided with all 40 Republicans present in opposing debate. Mr. Reid switched his vote to no at the last minute, a procedural maneuver that allows him to call for a revote. "
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/22/us/politics/22cong.html?_r=1&nl=us&emc=politicsemailema1 On 9/21/10, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > OOPs! > > *All thirty nine Republicans voted no. Every single one. One Hunfdred per > cent no. * > ** > *Only FOUR out of fifty nine democrats voted no. A very small percentage. > * > **** > *Your twisted pretzel logic is illogical, and your math is fuzzy.* > > > > > On 9/21/10, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Then who was the other vote. You have accounted for 42 votes and >> there were 43. BTW the twisted pretzel logic I mentioned earlier with >> regard to Susan Collins is precisely what she gave as her reason for voting >> against the bill. Talk to Harry Reid. It was his doing that lost her >> vote. Nothing twisted pretzel. The Republicans asked very nicely to >> open the bill up for amendments and were turned down. They also asked very >> nicely to hold off until the Pentagon finished their analysis which is due >> on Dec 1 and were turned down. Two very good reasons to vote against the >> bill. You are only interested in the DADT part of the bill. Do you have >> any idea of what else is in that bill? If it were passed then what would >> be the total consequences of passing it. DADT would be gone but what else >> would be involved. After all the Dems are past masters of shoving all >> kinds of things into bills that they expect will pass with no problem such >> as military expenditure bills. Or the 1099 rules that are included in the >> Obamacare bill. What do 1099 rules have to do with HCR. Same with this >> one. Tell us from all your knowledge just what all is included in this bill >> and what the ramifications of passing them would be. >> >> >> On 09/21/2010 05:04 PM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> *All thirty nine Republicans voted no. Every single one. One Hunfdred >> per cent no. * >> ** >> *Only three out of fifty nine democrats voted no. A very small >> percentage. * >> **** >> *Your twisted pretzel logic is illogical, and your math is fuzzy.* >> >> >> On 9/21/10, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Tommy still tries to blame the Republicans but the Republicans do not >>> have enough members to stop the bill. It requires Dems to vote NO in order >>> to stop the bill. If the Dems were to do their usual vote in lock-step >>> then it would have passed. It did not so therefore the Dems doomed the >>> bill. >>> >>> >>> On 09/21/2010 04:35 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE wrote: >>> >>>> I do have to agree with Tommy on this one though..... "Shame on >>>> the.... 'Democratically controlled'.... Senate". >>>> >>>> On Sep 21, 1:59 pm, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Note how Tom has picked up on the daily far left spin today: >>>>> >>>>> *"This likely means the policy will stay in place, and that it could >>>>> take >>>>> many more years to repeal the failed Don't Ask Don't Tell policy, which >>>>> has >>>>> ruined thousands of lives and careers and could now ruin thousands more >>>>> after this disappointing vote. Shame on the Senate" >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> ** >>>>> ** >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:37 PM, dick thompson<[email protected] >>>>> >wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> That is still not enough to doom the bill. The ones who finished the >>>>>> dooming had to have been Dems. And at that Harry Reid has to share >>>>>> the >>>>>> blame. Did you think that the Republicans for the most part were >>>>>> voting >>>>>> no because they felt that the Pentagon needed to finish their study of >>>>>> how >>>>>> to implement the repeal of DADT? The blame is therefore on Reid for >>>>>> trying >>>>>> to shove this bill through without any idea of how to implement the >>>>>> repeal. How do you set up the troops so that the gays do not get the >>>>>> krep >>>>>> kicked out of them. Do you allow mixed sex barracks now? Do you >>>>>> separate >>>>>> gays and non-gays? How do you punish those who break the new rules. >>>>>> What >>>>>> would the punishment be and where would it occur. Do you just think >>>>>> Tinker >>>>>> Bell can pluck her magic twanger and make it all happen with no >>>>>> problems? >>>>>> Will you take responsibility for any problems that occur? No, all you >>>>>> want >>>>>> to do is blame anyone who does not march in lockstep with Tommy News >>>>>> and his >>>>>> policies and call them names. Pathetic! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 09/21/2010 03:28 PM, Tommy News wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> *Every single Republican voted no. They are all to blame.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/21/10, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Let's see - the Harry Reid policy of not allowing more than one >>>>>>> amendment on the bill chased the one Republican they had, Susan >>>>>>> Collins, >>>>>>> away. That still left some Dems voting against the bill. Who were >>>>>>> they. >>>>>>> Why not mention them since they are the ones who doomed the bill. >>>>>>> The Dems >>>>>>> had the 60 they needed if they got all their members to vote for >>>>>>> them. >>>>>>> Don't blame the Republicans for this one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 09/21/2010 03:14 PM, Tommy News wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> *Bad news: Senate Blocks DADT Repeal Amendment in 56-43 cloture vote >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> *(4 votes short of the 60 votes needed for cloture and repeal)* >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> *This likely means the policy will stay in place, and that it could >>>>>>> take >>>>>>> many more years to repeal the failed Don't Ask Don't Tell policy, >>>>>>> which has >>>>>>> ruined thousands of lives and careers and could now ruin thousands >>>>>>> more >>>>>>> after this disappointing vote. Shame on the Senate. * >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> *Senator John McCain gave a thumbs up on the Senate floor after the >>>>>>> vote. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> * >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Tommy >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>> For options& help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> * Visit our other community >>>>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>> For options& help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> * Visit our other community >>>>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>> Tommy -- >>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>> For options& help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> * Visit our other community >>>>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>> For options& help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> * Visit our other community >>>>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>>>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at >>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> * It's >>> active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the >>> latest breaking news, and more. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> > > > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy > -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
