Kind of counter intuitive though, don't you think.... "Free Speech is
destroying Speech?


On Sep 29, 11:50 am, nominal9 <[email protected]> wrote:
> The Nazis burned BOOKS AND JEWS.... was that covered by "Free Speech"
> for Peretz, too?
>
> Now THAT IS BELOW THE BELT..... BUT JUST SAYIN'.....
>
> Actually, there is a big difference between murder and burning a book,
> of course... Personally, I can see "Free Speech" allowing burning a
> Koran, a Bible, A Torah... the Dead Sea Scrolls... the original Ten
> Commandments of Moses...anything like that....
> But depending on the "intent".....at least "some" who do burn
> books..... well, they happen to be bigots and racists....
> nominal9
>
> On Sep 29, 11:25 am, euwe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > hate is the right's new "truth"
>
> > On Sep 27, 4:38 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >    *« Islamic (Sharia) Law: Stoning Video Surfaces from Pakistan **Graphic
> > > Warning** Stoned to
> > > death*<http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/09/islamic-shari...>
> > >  | *Main* <http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/> | *OCTOBER 9
> > > FDI/SIOA and VAST PROTEST! GROUND ZERO MOSQUE THUG DEVELOPER AT 
> > > HAMAS-LINKED
> > > CAIR DINNER 
> > > »*<http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/09/october-9-pro...>
> > >  Saturday, September 25, 2010
> > >  CRITICISM OF ISLAM IS NEW FRONT IN PC WAR, MEDIA EXPERT SAYS
> > > TRUTH IS THE NEW HATE SPEECH, SAYS PAMELA GELLER
>
> > > This is the sharia. The silence on Islamic jihad in the media, on the
> > > college campuses, in the government, etc., is sharia. I will ask this for
> > > the zillionth time. Why is CAIR, named an unindicted co-conspirator, a 
> > > known
> > > Hamas-linked, Muslim Brotherhood front, given senior status on media 
> > > outlets
> > > everywhere? Their unindicted co-conspirator status came from their support
> > > for the Holy Land Foundation, that was funding Hamas, and CAIR co-founder
> > > Nihad Awad was vocal in his support of the genocidal, Islamic jihadist
> > > group. This was entered into evidence in the largest terror funding trial 
> > > in
> > > American history, the Holy Land trial.
>
> > > But they get the mainstream media megaphone to spew their Islamic
> > > supremacist hate and defamation. CAIR hates me because I speak the truth
> > > about jihad and Islamic supremacism. CAIR hates me because I help Muslims
> > > whose lives are in danger. CAIR hates me because I have aided and assisted
> > > in an underground railroad for those leaving Islam. I have worked to mark
> > > the graves of honor killing victims left to rot in unmarked graves. We 
> > > have
> > > planted a grove of trees in Jerusalem for honor killing victims across the
> > > world. What have the Islamic imperialists and supremacists done for the
> > > victims of jihad? Name one thing.
>
> > > CAIR hates me. Islamic supremacists hate me because I am free. They hate
> > > freedom.
>
> > > The media has been irresponsible in their aiding and abetting of the 
> > > stealth
> > > jihad. Where are the voices of Wafa Sultan, Ibn Warraq, Bat Ye'or, Ayaan
> > > Hirsi Ali, etc? Why are they not given equal time?
>
> > > Molly Norris, an unknown Seattle cartoonist, must go into witness 
> > > protection
> > > because she dared to initiate "Everyone Draw Muhammad Day," a response to
> > > the Muslim death threats against the producers of Comedy Central (they 
> > > dared
> > > to say Muhammad and put him in a huggy bear costume). So Norris has to
> > > change her name, leave her job, her home, her life, *at her own 
> > > **expense**,
> > > * because savages were ........... offended. President Obama, how about 
> > > you
> > > use a smidge of the trillions in stimulus and keep Norris safe at the 
> > > White
> > > House? We should be footing that bill. Norris should get the best 
> > > protection
> > > our free, Western money can buy.
>
> > > I have one word for CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, MAS and all the other Muslim
> > > Brotherhood fronts and their media shills. One word. *America. *That's
> > > right. America. America is waking up. Subversives and outlaw organizations
> > > like CAIR will face prosecution one day. Mark my words.
>
> > > As for for the highly defamatory and notoriously leftist smear machine 
> > > Media
> > > Matters calling me a bigot, I wear it as a badge of honor coming from the
> > > propaganda machine of the king of the  Nazis, George Soros.
>
> > > *Criticism of Islam Is New Front in PC War, Media
> > > Expert*<http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/24/criticizing-islam-harvard-profes...>
> > > Says
> > > Joshua Rhett Miler, FOX
>
> > > The mere act of criticizing Islam has become an act of politically 
> > > incorrect
> > > hate speech, a media analyst and free-speech advocate says, citing several
> > > incidents in recent weeks where people have been lambasted publicly for
> > > their remarks.
>
> > > *"We're living in a 'here and now' where no one's allowed to say anything
> > > bad about Islam, it seems,*" says Dan Gainor, vice president of business 
> > > and
> > > culture at the Media Research Center.
>
> > > The most recent transgressor, he says, is Marty Peretz, the 
> > > editor-in-chief
> > > of The New Republic and a former Harvard professor, who has come under
> > > attack for a Sept. 4 blog post in which he wrote: "Muslim life is cheap,
> > > most notably to Muslims," and questioned whether Muslims deserved 
> > > protection
> > > from the First Amendment.
>
> > > Peretz apologized for the posting nine days later, saying he deeply
> > > regretted the statements and that he was genuinely embarrassed. But that 
> > > did
> > > not stop Harvard students, faculty and alumni from writing an open letter 
> > > to
> > > Harvard President Drew Faust in which they protested Peretz's appearance,
> > > scheduled for Saturday, at a Harvard anniversary ceremony.
>
> > > Harvard has also drawn criticism for accepting an undergraduate research
> > > endowment fund created by relatives, former students and colleagues in
> > > Peretz's name. The fund's proposed amount has recently increased from
> > > $500,000 to $650,000, leading some social studies professors to interpret
> > > the increase as an indication of support for Peretz, Simon Sternin, a
> > > Harvard alum and an organizer of the petition, told the Harvard Crimson.
>
> > > The most recent transgressor, he says, is Marty Peretz, the 
> > > editor-in-chief
> > > of The New Republic and a former Harvard professor, who has come under
> > > attack for a Sept. 4 blog post in which he wrote: "Muslim life is cheap,
> > > most notably to Muslims," and questioned whether Muslims deserved 
> > > protection
> > > from the First Amendment.
>
> > > Peretz apologized for the posting nine days later, saying he deeply
> > > regretted the statements and that he was genuinely embarrassed. But that 
> > > did
> > > not stop Harvard students, faculty and alumni from writing an open letter 
> > > to
> > > Harvard President Drew Faust in which they protested Peretz's appearance,
> > > scheduled for Saturday, at a Harvard anniversary ceremony.
>
> > > Harvard has also drawn criticism for accepting an undergraduate research
> > > endowment fund created by relatives, former students and colleagues in
> > > Peretz's name. The fund's proposed amount has recently increased from
> > > $500,000 to $650,000, leading some social studies professors to interpret
> > > the increase as an indication of support for Peretz, Simon Sternin, a
> > > Harvard alum and an organizer of the petition, told the Harvard Crimson.
>
> > > But Gainor says criticism of Peretz's comments has gotten out of hand.
>
> > > "We're fighting a war against radical Islam," Gainor told
> > > FoxNews.com<http://foxnews.com/>. "For
> > > radical Islam, life is cheap, both for their lives and our lives. The left
> > > has become so indoctrinaire that they're more concerned about being
> > > politically correct than they are about protecting our nation."
>
> > > The media is complicit, too, Gainor said, accusing them of "zooming in on
> > > anybody who is saying anything critical of Islam."
>
> > > To illustrate his point, Gainor recalled* Derek Fenton, the **New 
> > > Jersey** man
> > > who lost his job of 11 years at NJ Transit, the state's public **
> > > transportation** corporation, after he burned a Koran outside the site of
> > > the planned "Ground Zero Mosque" on Sept. 11.  Fenton, 39, was not 
> > > arrested,
> > > but he nevertheless lost his job because NJ Transit said his actions
> > > violated their code of ethics.*
>
> > > *"The lack of media indignation on that one is astonishing," *Gainor
> > > said. "Our media allegedly embraces free speech, but it doesn't. It only
> > > embraces free speech that doesn't possibly offend Islam. If he had been
> > > fired for burning a Bible, he would've been on every evening network news
> > > show. It's free speech. It's not something I would do, but it's still free
> > > speech."
>
> > > Gainor also pointed to the case of Pastor Terry Jones, the Gainesville,
> > > Fla., minister who threatened to burn the Koran on Sept. 11 but changed 
> > > his
> > > mind after a call from the White House. Jones' threat became global news,
> > > inciting protests and threats of reprisal in Afghanistan and elsewhere.
>
> > > "Again, it shows how PC we've become," Gainor said.* "Some idiot can burn 
> > > a
> > > book anywhere in the country, but if you dare burn a Koran, it becomes an
> > > international incident."*
>
> > > Just last week, Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer said he's not 
> > > prepared
> > > to conclude that the First Amendment condones burning the Koran.
>
> > > "[Oliver Wendell] Holmes said it doesn't mean you can shout 'fire' in a
> > > crowded theater," Breyer told George Stephanopoulos of ABC News.  "Well,
> > > what is it?  Why?  Because people will be trampled to death.  And what is
> > > the crowded theater today?  What is being trampled to death?"
>
> > > The issue "will be answered over time in a series of cases," Breyer said.
>
> > > Meanwhile, Ari Ravin-Havt, vice president of research and communications 
> > > at
> > > Media Matters strongly disagreed with Gainor's assertion that "no one's
> > > allowed to say anything bad" about Islam.
>
> > > *"If that were true, bigots like [blogger] Pam Geller would not be
> > > consistently given a platform on
>
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