*And who causes these gays and children to have a low self image?*
**
*Homophobes and bullies do!*


On 10/5/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Tommy,
>
>
> It is pretty well a standard that for all time the animal population has
> been ten percent (or a little more) gay. No big deal to me, I don't care
> what someone is as long as they are decent, hardworking and caring
> individuals.
>
>
> There is no great difference between gay and straight (to me anyway) I have
> a flaming queen for a friend who has been in a committed relationship for 10
> or more years and that is great. I do however chastise the little fagot when
> he gets all over his husband in public... (so does his husband). I did the
> same with my sons that are straight and did this with their girlfriends. To
> talk and be openly romantic in public is one thing.... to be openly sexual
> in public is quite another....
>
>
> Mental health is an important issue.... but mental weakness is brought on
> by all things from the womb and life. If outing a gay is going to cause him
> to commit suicide then there was something wrong with his own self image...
> not with someone that simply pointed out the obvious (for whatever reason).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> *Brucie may not be smart enough to figure out that there are gay Jews,
>> and Muslims, and Quakers, and blacks, and Asians etc etc. There are even gay
>> Republicans and Libertarians.  *
>> **
>> *Some of them are indeed harmed, tortured and driven into depression and
>> suicide by intolerant homophobic bullies. Even by gay closet cases who are
>> the worst bullies of all.*
>>
>> *Hatred must be eradicated, wherever it exists.*
>>
>>   On 10/5/10, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Unless Mark has a homosexual child he has a strained relationship with I
>>> doubt he is causing these problems.
>>>
>>>
>>> Most Jews, and Moslems, and Quakers, and blacks, and Asians etc etc do
>>> not commit suicide, even if many people in their general society dislike
>>> them.  Because they all at least have the support of their own family.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tommy may not be smart enough to figure out that his own "liberal"
>>> Demwits are a main reason gays kill themselves.  Public schools that
>>> everyone is forced to go to are where most gays kids are bullied and called
>>> names and have to hide their identities cause suicide.  Parents of gay kids
>>> can't do anything about sending them to other more supportive schools since
>>> independent schools are almost outlawed de facto.
>>>
>>>
>>> In addition, Democratic gays and lesbians like Hillary Rosen and Al
>>> Gore's campaign manager Donna Brazille are on TV all the time pretending to
>>> be straight so they can get more votes for Democrats.  Brazille even went
>>> into some borderline porn this summer on how Gov. Perry makes her coochie
>>> moist on ABC's "This Week," though everyone I know in DC knows the women she
>>> has dated.  So your gay political leaders who act ashamed of their sexual
>>> orientation are a major cause of the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe if you committed suicide by strapping on a bomb and going to one of
>>> your gay Democratic step 'n' fetchit meetings you would take out enough of
>>> your fellow bitches to reduce the gay teen suicide rates.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Ignorant homophobes like you cause these suicides.*
>>>>
>>>> On 10/1/10, Mark <mark <[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No Tommy, it is not. The urge to destroy oneself is as ancient as life
>>>>> itself. There are so very many reasons people do this to themselves, both
>>>>> real and unreal reasons. There is however ONE reason ALL suicides do
>>>>> this.... they are too weak to cope and that, Sir, is a personal problem. 
>>>>> It
>>>>> is NOT societal, and NOT something that can be legislated that causes me 
>>>>> to
>>>>> lose the freedom to ask if someone is Gay or Lesbian (for whatever reason)
>>>>> or to call someone a flaming Queen if they are acting like one.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Markie, Markie, Markie.*
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> *Your ugly negativity and snarky spin is most perverse.*
>>>>>> *One suicide is one too many.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *No man is an island*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      No man is an island entire of itself; every man
>>>>>> is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
>>>>>> if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
>>>>>> is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
>>>>>> well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
>>>>>> own were; any man's death diminishes me,
>>>>>> because I am involved in mankind.
>>>>>> And therefore never send to know for whom
>>>>>> the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -John Donne
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On 10/1/10, Mark <markm <[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He must have had a really poor self image... short of that nothing
>>>>>>> could "Make" him commit suicide. Suicide IS against the law, isn't it ??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you are basically saying "Mommy, Mommy, he made me do it !!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not much of a defense when prejudice of one kind or another exists in
>>>>>>> EVERY walk of life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Tommy News 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  *This is not one isolated incident. The problem of homophobia is
>>>>>>>> societal and must be eradicated. *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *This week , I heard about 3 – THREE – other young gay men murdered
>>>>>>>> by homophobia in America.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.queerty.com/shock-gay-texas-13-year-old-asher-brown-shoots-himself-in-the-head-after-horrific-school-torment-20100928/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2010/09/gay-teen-dies-after-10-days-on-life-support-following-suicide-attempt-over-anti-gay-bullying/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://abcnews.go.com/US/victim-secret-dorm-sex-tape-commits-suicide/story?id=11758716
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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