They may bring it to the surface but they certainly do not cause it.
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > *And who causes these gays and children to have a low self image?* > ** > *Homophobes and bullies do!* > > > On 10/5/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Tommy, >> >> >> It is pretty well a standard that for all time the animal population has >> been ten percent (or a little more) gay. No big deal to me, I don't care >> what someone is as long as they are decent, hardworking and caring >> individuals. >> >> >> There is no great difference between gay and straight (to me anyway) I >> have a flaming queen for a friend who has been in a committed relationship >> for 10 or more years and that is great. I do however chastise the little >> fagot when he gets all over his husband in public... (so does his husband). >> I did the same with my sons that are straight and did this with their >> girlfriends. To talk and be openly romantic in public is one thing.... to be >> openly sexual in public is quite another.... >> >> >> Mental health is an important issue.... but mental weakness is brought on >> by all things from the womb and life. If outing a gay is going to cause him >> to commit suicide then there was something wrong with his own self image... >> not with someone that simply pointed out the obvious (for whatever reason). >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> *Brucie may not be smart enough to figure out that there are gay Jews, >>> and Muslims, and Quakers, and blacks, and Asians etc etc. There are even gay >>> Republicans and Libertarians. * >>> ** >>> *Some of them are indeed harmed, tortured and driven into depression and >>> suicide by intolerant homophobic bullies. Even by gay closet cases who are >>> the worst bullies of all.* >>> >>> *Hatred must be eradicated, wherever it exists.* >>> >>> On 10/5/10, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Unless Mark has a homosexual child he has a strained relationship with I >>>> doubt he is causing these problems. >>>> >>>> >>>> Most Jews, and Moslems, and Quakers, and blacks, and Asians etc etc do >>>> not commit suicide, even if many people in their general society dislike >>>> them. Because they all at least have the support of their own family. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tommy may not be smart enough to figure out that his own "liberal" >>>> Demwits are a main reason gays kill themselves. Public schools that >>>> everyone is forced to go to are where most gays kids are bullied and called >>>> names and have to hide their identities cause suicide. Parents of gay kids >>>> can't do anything about sending them to other more supportive schools since >>>> independent schools are almost outlawed de facto. >>>> >>>> >>>> In addition, Democratic gays and lesbians like Hillary Rosen and Al >>>> Gore's campaign manager Donna Brazille are on TV all the time pretending to >>>> be straight so they can get more votes for Democrats. Brazille even went >>>> into some borderline porn this summer on how Gov. Perry makes her coochie >>>> moist on ABC's "This Week," though everyone I know in DC knows the women >>>> she >>>> has dated. So your gay political leaders who act ashamed of their sexual >>>> orientation are a major cause of the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> Maybe if you committed suicide by strapping on a bomb and going to one >>>> of your gay Democratic step 'n' fetchit meetings you would take out enough >>>> of your fellow bitches to reduce the gay teen suicide rates. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Ignorant homophobes like you cause these suicides.* >>>>> >>>>> On 10/1/10, Mark <mark <[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No Tommy, it is not. The urge to destroy oneself is as ancient as life >>>>>> itself. There are so very many reasons people do this to themselves, both >>>>>> real and unreal reasons. There is however ONE reason ALL suicides do >>>>>> this.... they are too weak to cope and that, Sir, is a personal problem. >>>>>> It >>>>>> is NOT societal, and NOT something that can be legislated that causes me >>>>>> to >>>>>> lose the freedom to ask if someone is Gay or Lesbian (for whatever >>>>>> reason) >>>>>> or to call someone a flaming Queen if they are acting like one. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *Markie, Markie, Markie.* >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> *Your ugly negativity and snarky spin is most perverse.* >>>>>>> *One suicide is one too many.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *No man is an island* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No man is an island entire of itself; every man >>>>>>> is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; >>>>>>> if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe >>>>>>> is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as >>>>>>> well as any manner of thy friends or of thine >>>>>>> own were; any man's death diminishes me, >>>>>>> because I am involved in mankind. >>>>>>> And therefore never send to know for whom >>>>>>> the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -John Donne >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/1/10, Mark <markm <[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He must have had a really poor self image... short of that nothing >>>>>>>> could "Make" him commit suicide. Suicide IS against the law, isn't it >>>>>>>> ?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So you are basically saying "Mommy, Mommy, he made me do it !!" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not much of a defense when prejudice of one kind or another exists >>>>>>>> in EVERY walk of life. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Tommy News >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *This is not one isolated incident. The problem of homophobia is >>>>>>>>> societal and must be eradicated. * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *This week , I heard about 3 – THREE – other young gay men >>>>>>>>> murdered by homophobia in America.* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.queerty.com/shock-gay-texas-13-year-old-asher-brown-shoots-himself-in-the-head-after-horrific-school-torment-20100928/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2010/09/gay-teen-dies-after-10-days-on-life-support-following-suicide-attempt-over-anti-gay-bullying/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://abcnews.go.com/US/victim-secret-dorm-sex-tape-commits-suicide/story?id=11758716 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>> >>>> * Visit our other community at >>>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >>>> * It's active and moderated. 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