No. Dubya said that ending the war in Iraq woul be up to "Some Future President". He simply wanted to take credit, as many opportunistic Republican politicians do.
On 10/21/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, > > You forget that I require facts.... This deal was being negotiated a full > year before Obama was even in the primary elections let alone a real > candidate for the Democrats. Nobama had "0" to do with it... General > Petraeus was the impetus after the success of the "Surge" and with the > insistence of the new Iraqi Government as well. > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> False. >> >> The Faux deal was signed because President Obama was about to do it >> and Dubya wanted the credit. >> >> On 10/21/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Tommy, >> > >> > I am NOT a fan of Georgy Girl Bush. He did however cut and sign the >> > deal to end Iraq before he left office. NoBama is simply implementing >> > the republican signed plan. >> > >> > On Oct 21, 7:36 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I cannot open adobe documents on my old computer. >> >> >> >> Bush himself admitted that there were no WMDs in Iraq. >> >> >> >> The illegal invasion of Iraq was in reality a personal Bush family >> >> vendetta against Sadaaam Hussein, who tried to kill Daddy Bush, >> >> combined with the war profiteering greed of Dick Cheney and his >> >> Halliburton cronies. >> >> >> >> The unilateral invasion of Iraq violated both the Geneva Convention >> >> and The United Nations Charter, and the war criminals Bush, Cheney, >> >> Rove, Rice, and Rumsfeld should be impeached, tried and imprisoned. >> >> Yes, they can still be impeached even after they have left office. >> >> >> >> Thankfully, President Obama has ended the illegal Iraq war, and he has >> >> promised to also end the war in Afghanistan beginning in 2011. >> >> >> >> PEACE! >> >> >> >> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Whoops! I forgot to attach the attachment! >> >> >> >> > Apologies! >> >> >> >> > Keith >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Keith In Tampa >> >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Hey Michael, >> >> >> >> >> Maybe that great Irish American, Jude Wannanski might want to take >> >> >> up >> >> >> his >> >> >> research, and resources with John Negroponte, and the United States >> >> >> Congress. (*See* Attachment, in .pdf format, from June 21, 2006). >> >> >> >> >> Below is info from the Congressional Research Office, of the >> >> >> weaponry >> >> >> that >> >> >> was unaccounted for, and at the time that we invaded Iraq, none of >> >> >> these >> >> >> biological weapons had been located. Again, *See* Attachment....We >> did >> >> >> find some of them. >> >> >> >> >> Below that, is other articles that conclusively prove that not only >> did >> >> >> we >> >> >> discover that there had been biological weaponry and potential >> nuclear >> >> >> weaponry in Iraq, but we still, to date, have not accounted for all >> of >> >> >> Saddam Hussein's and the Baath Party's weaponry. >> >> >> >> >> Anything else, is nothing but far left, liberal mainstream spin and >> >> >> bias, >> >> >> which folks like Tom fall for and quote, hook, line and sinker. >> >> >> >> >> Tommy, there is some "special" information for you, as well as a You >> >> >> Tube >> >> >> video clip for you to watch at the bottom of this message: >> >> >> >> >> =========== >> >> >> >> >> From the Congressional Research Service: April, 1998: >> >> >> >> >>http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/crs/98042705_npo.html >> >> >> >> >> Iraq has also acknowledged that prior to the >> >> >> Persian<http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/crs/98042705_npo.html#>Gulf >> >> >> conflict it >> >> >> manufactured 100 botulinum bombs, 50 anthrax bombs, and 7 aflatoxin >> >> >> bombs. >> >> >> In addition, 16 missile warheads were filled with botulinum, five >> with >> >> >> anthrax bacillus, and four with aflatoxin. >> >> >> >> >> U.S. and British intelligence agencies believe that Iraq has hidden >> >> >> stores of CBW agents, production equipment, ballistic missiles, and >> >> >> missile warheads. UNSCOM has reported no firm evidence that Iraq >> still >> >> >> retains weapons or materiel, but the Iraqi government has not >> provided >> >> >> adequate evidence to support its claim that all its CBW arsenal has >> >> >> been >> >> >> destroyed, nor has it accounted for CBW production materials known >> >> >> to >> >> >> have >> >> >> been in its possession. These factors, coupled with Iraqi >> >> >> obstruction >> >> >> of >> >> >> UNSCOM inspections, have led to strong suspicions. U.S. and British >> >> >> intelligence agencies believe that Iraq still may possess tons of >> >> >> chemical >> >> >> warfare agents and the necessary materials to produce thousands of >> >> >> liters >> >> >> of >> >> >> biological agents. UNSCOM and U.S. intelligence differ in their >> >> >> estimates >> >> >> of >> >> >> the number of actual missiles that may still be in Iraq. Again >> >> >> information >> >> >> is sketchy. In part, this is because much is classified, but even >> the >> >> >> classified information is reportedly incomplete. A recent report >> issued >> >> >> by >> >> >> the British government, however, provided some information (Foreign >> and >> >> >> Commonwealth Office -- >> >> >> (http://193.114.50.5/texts/1998/feb/04/iraqppr.txt). >> >> >> >> >> -- British intelligence believes that up to ten SCUD missiles >> >> >> capable >> >> >> of carrying CBW warheads remain hidden. >> >> >> >> >> -- UNSCOM reports that between 40-70 CBW-capable missile warheads >> >> >> are >> >> >> unaccounted for. >> >> >> >> >> -- Iraq possessed enough growth medium to produce over 16,000 liters >> >> >> more >> >> >> anthrax spores than has been acknowledged. >> >> >> >> >> -- 4,000 tons of CW precursor chemicals are unaccounted for; enough >> to >> >> >> produce several hundred tons of CW agents. >> >> >> >> >> -- 31,000 CW munitions remain unaccounted for. >> >> >> >> >> -- Essential CW production equipment remains unaccounted for. >> >> >> >> >> -- It is believed that Iraq may retain undetermined amounts of Ebola >> >> >> virus, bubonic and pneumonic plague bacteria, and the toxin ricin. >> >> >> >> >> ======================== >> >> >> >> >> Thursday, 19 December, 2002, 16:35 GMT >> >> >> *Iraq's 'unaccounted for' weapons* >> >> >> >> >> By Paul Reynolds >> >> >> BBC News Online world affairs correspondent >> >> >> >> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2590265.stm >> >> >> >> >> Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix has said Iraq's new declaration >> >> >> contains little information that had not been declared by Baghdad >> >> >> before >> >> >> 1998 when UN arms experts were last in Iraq. >> >> >> >> >> The US and UK have long had concerns about what is described as >> >> >> unaccounted >> >> >> for chemical, biological and nuclear material. Their assessments >> >> >> were >> >> >> partly >> >> >> based on a report by the weapons inspections organisation Unscom, >> >> >> predecessor to Unmovic. >> >> >> >> >> In early 1999, Unscom gave the Security Council its own assessment >> >> >> of >> >> >> what >> >> >> Iraq had destroyed and what remained unaccounted for. >> >> >> >> >> The US and UK want a full explanation of what happened to the >> >> >> following: >> >> >> >> >> - 360 tonnes of chemical warfare agents, including 1.5 tonnes of >> VX >> >> >> nerve agent; >> >> >> >> >> - 3,000 tonnes of chemical precursors (which are developed into >> >> >> chemical weapons) including 300 tonnes uniquely used for VX. >> >> >> >> >> The 1999 Unscom report said: >> >> >> >> >> "According to Iraq, 1.5 tonnes of VX were discarded unilaterally by >> >> >> dumping >> >> >> on the ground. Traces of one VX-degradation product and a chemical >> >> >> known >> >> >> as >> >> >> a VX-stabilizer were found in the samples taken from the VX dump >> sites. >> >> >> A >> >> >> quantified assessment is not possible." >> >> >> >> >> *Biological* >> >> >> >> >> Britain and America want to know about: >> >> >> >> >> Growth media for 20,000 litres of biological warfare agents. Any >> Iraqi >> >> >> claims that this will have degenerated will not be accepted as >> mustard >> >> >> gas >> >> >> found in shells in 1997 was active; >> >> >> >> >> Shells for use in biological warfare - 20,000 are missing say the >> >> >> British, >> >> >> 15,000 say the Americans; >> >> >> >> >> Unscom said in 1999: >> >> >> >> >> "The commission has little or no confidence in Iraq's accounting for >> >> >> proscribed items for which physical evidence is lacking or >> >> >> inconclusive, >> >> >> documentation is sparse or nonexistent, and coherence and >> >> >> consistency >> >> >> is >> >> >> lacking. >> >> >> >> >> These include, for example: quantities and types of munitions >> available >> >> >> for >> >> >> biological weapons (BW) filling; quantities and types of munitions >> >> >> filled >> >> >> with BW agents; quantities and type of bulk agents produced; >> quantities >> >> >> of >> >> >> bulk agents used in filling; quantities of bulk agents destroyed; >> >> >> quantities >> >> >> of growth media acquired for the programme; and quantities of growth >> >> >> media >> >> >> used/consumed. >> >> >> >> >> In addition, the commission has no confidence that all bulk agents >> have >> >> >> been destroyed; that no BW munitions or weapons remain in Iraq; and >> >> >> that a >> >> >> BW capability does not still exist in Iraq." >> >> >> >> >> *Chemical warfare munitions* >> >> >> >> >> Washington and London demand disclosure on: >> >> >> >> >> 6,000 chemical warfare bombs. >> >> >> >> >> Unscom said: >> >> >> >> >> The commission has accepted the destruction of about 34,000 >> >> >> munitions >> >> >> on >> >> >> the basis of multiple sources, including physical evidence, >> >> >> documents >> >> >> provided by Iraq etc. However, it has not been possible to achieve a >> >> >> numerical accounting of destroyed munitions due to heavy bomb damage >> of >> >> >> the >> >> >> CW storage >> >> >> facilities< >> https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.h...>, >> >> >> where these munitions had been stored during the Gulf war. The >> >> >> destruction >> >> >> of about 2,000 unfilled munitions remain uncertain, 550 filled >> >> >> munitions >> >> >> remain unaccounted for. >> >> >> >> >> Other key concerns for the US and UK include the following: >> >> >> >> >> - Why did Iraq try to import 60,000 aluminium tubes? Rapidly >> >> >> spinning >> >> >> rotor tubes in centrifuges are used to separate weapons grade >> >> >> uranium, >> >> >> though both the British and American reports acknowledge that the >> >> >> tubes >> >> >> could be used for conventional weapons as well. >> >> >> >> >> Why did it try to import other equipment, including vacuum >> >> >> pumps< >> https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.h...>, >> >> >> a winding machine and special chemicals needed in gas >> >> >> centrifuge< >> https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.h.. >> .>cascades? >> >> >> >> >> ============================================= >> >> >> >> >> I don't think there is any argument, by anyone who keeps abreast of >> >> >> current >> >> >> affairs and world events, that all of the Western World believed at >> the >> >> >> time >> >> >> of the United States' invasion of Iraq, that Saddam Hussein >> possessed >> >> >> biological and chemical weapons, and was attempting to obtain >> >> >> nuclear >> >> >> weaponry. Hell, we, (MNO's from Germany, the United States and >> >> >> Great >> >> >> Britain) sold them to Hussein and his government! Anthrax, VX nerve >> >> >> agent, >> >> >> and a variety of other weapons of mass destruction were never >> accounted >> >> >> for >> >> >> by Saddam Hussein and his Baath Party led Iraqi government, as late >> as >> >> >> 2003. >> >> >> >> >>http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/jan-june03/wmd_5-29.html >> >> >> >> >> As stated, I attached a declassified file from the United States >> Senate >> >> >> where 500 canisters for missile armament tips of nerve agent were >> >> >> found >> >> >> in >> >> >> 2006. >> >> >> >> >> No major media outcry over that. Hardly a peep from mainstream >> >> >> media >> >> >> when >> >> >> 550 metric tons of yellow cake was recently shipped to Canada from >> >> >> Iraq, >> >> >> just this year: >> >> >> >> >> >> http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2008/07/07/msm-yawn-550-met... >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-elliott/weapons-of-mass-destruc... >> >> >> >> >>http://stke.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/2003/203/pe42 >> >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >> read more ยป >> > >> > -- >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> > >> > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > > > -- > Mark M. Kahle H. > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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