No Keith, You stop YOUR hate, lies and smear.
On 12/9/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Stop the hate, lies and smear Tom! > > It's unbecoming, and breaks that wholesome, clean, Christian oriented image > that you seem to be striving for!! > > KeithInDC > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Markie Markie Markie >> >> So you are saying that Dumbya's illegal undeclared war in Iraq was >> imaginary and did not happen? >> You are a pathetic denier. >> >> Your math is also off. 59 votes is not 60 votes, and the Un-American >> Republicans are abusing the 60 vote cloture rule on every bill to make >> The President fail, their top agenda. >> >> Wrong again, dearie. >> >> On 12/9/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, >> > >> > War has not been declared since WWll, The first responders on 9/11 had >> > insurance coverage, and Obama (your boy) is fighting to KEEP DADT in >> > the courts. >> > >> > Just how are ANY of these items a "Republican" problem when the Dems >> > have 60 senate votes for any GOOD cause and three simply don't >> > vote ??? Do you really think they didn't know the result BEFORE the >> > vote ?? >> > >> > On Dec 9, 7:28 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Grand Obstructionist Republicans Block DADT Repeal, Vote No to helping >> >> 9/11 Responders, Vote to Extend Bush Tax Cuts to the Wealthy, and Vote >> >> No to Funding the Troops in a Time of War Putting Troops in Danger. >> >> This is More Sickening and Disgusting Behavior From the GOP. Vote them >> >> ALL out of office in 2012. >> >> >> >> Senate vote kills repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell' >> >> >> >> The Senate on Thursday killed repeal of the "don't ask, don't tell" >> >> ban on openly gay members of the military, delivering a blow to >> >> President Obama one week after a Pentagon study urged an end to the >> >> Clinton-era ban. >> >> >> >> Although last-ditch efforts were underway to try another avenue to >> >> repeal the ban before Congress adjourns for the year, the procedural >> >> vote likely ends for the foreseeable future the possibility that the >> >> 17-year-old ban can be repealed legislatively, leaving the matter to >> >> the courts. >> >> >> >> A lawsuit by the Log Cabin Republicans, a gay conservative group, that >> >> challenges the ban is before the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals >> >> in San Francisco, which is expected to issue a ruling sometime next >> >> summer. >> >> >> >> The 57-40 vote to move ahead on the defense authorization bill, which >> >> contained the repeal, fell three votes short of the 60 needed to >> >> overcome a Republican filibuster. >> >> >> >> Obama issued a statement saying, "As commander in chief, I have >> >> pledged to repeal this discriminatory law." He urged continued efforts >> >> to repeal the law this year. >> >> >> >> Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., said they >> >> would try to move a stand-alone bill, but it faces the same procedural >> >> roadblocks that killed the much more popular defense bill. Sen. John >> >> McCain, R-Ariz., has been blocking the defense bill since spring >> >> because it would repeal the ban on gays, lesbians and bisexuals >> >> serving openly in the military. >> >> >> >> The Human Rights Campaign, a pro-gay lobbying group, demanded that >> >> Obama act unilaterally to cease defense of the ban in court, and halt >> >> discharges of gay and lesbian troops under an emergency "stop-loss" >> >> military order put in place by the George W. Bush administration, >> >> which prevents troop discharges in case of military need. >> >> >> >> The Department of Justice has been defending the ban in court as a >> >> matter of U.S. law. But Human Rights Campaign spokesperson Fred Sainz, >> >> said decisions about which laws to defend are "a subjective judgment >> >> made by every administration. They are not under an obligation to >> >> defend every law and have not." >> >> >> >> Senate majority leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., called for a vote on the >> >> repeal bill knowing it would fail. He said Republicans kept changing >> >> their demands on the parameters of the debate of the defense bill and >> >> concluded they would continue blocking the bill. >> >> >> >> Repeal supporters believed they had enough Republican votes to pass >> >> repeal of the gay ban if the broader defense bill had reached a floor >> >> debate. >> >> >> >> Last week, the Pentagon weighed in strongly in favor of repeal, >> >> issuing the results of an exhaustive, 10-month study, which included >> >> surveys of active-duty troops and focus groups. The study found that >> >> lifting the ban would not harm military effectiveness, unit cohesion >> >> or other measures of military prowess. >> >> >> >> Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of >> >> the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified to Congress last week urging >> >> repeal and warning that if Congress does not act, the courts will. >> >> >> >> McCain, who once said he would go along with the results of the study, >> >> called it flawed and cited continued resistance by combat troops in >> >> the Army and Marines, as well as special operations forces, to serving >> >> with gay troops. >> >> >> >> Obama, who many times promised gay groups that repeal would happen on >> >> his watch, had personally phoned GOP Senators urging repeal. Collins >> >> and Lieberman had been trying to broker an agreement with Reid on how >> >> much time and how many amendments would be allowed for debate on the >> >> defense bill. >> >> >> >> Collins rushed to the Senate floor just as Reid finished announcing >> >> that he would call up the bill, accusing him of sabotaging repeal. >> >> >> >> "There was such a clear path for us to be able to get this bill done >> >> and I am perplexed and frustrated that this important bill is going to >> >> become a victim of politics," Collins said. "Sen. Lieberman and I have >> >> been bargaining in good faith with the majority leader." >> >> >> >> Collins said she thought she had an agreement to allow a debate with >> >> 10 GOP amendments and five Democratic amendments. >> >> >> >> A senior Democratic aide said Reid had given Collins plenty of ground >> >> but that she had rejected the offer of 15 amendments. The Senate was >> >> running out of time and Collins was offering no clear path around >> >> continuing GOP obstruction, the aide said, adding that Reid had >> >> offered an open amendment process on the defense bill earlier in the >> >> year but Collins refused then to go along. >> >> >> >> Reid was backed by Senate Armed Services Committee chair Carl Levin, >> >> D-Mich., who said the clock had run out. >> >> >> >> The vote kills for this session of Congress the entire defense bill - >> >> the first time that has happened in 48 years. It also contained a pay >> >> increase for the military and many other components. >> >> >> >> Republicans had insisted that their deal with Obama on tax cuts be >> >> resolved before proceeding to any other business, including the >> >> defense bill. >> >> >> >> Repeal of the ban had passed the House earlier this year, but >> >> Republican leaders who will assume control of the House in January >> >> have said they have no intention of bringing up repeal when they take >> >> control for the next two years. The next chance Democrats have to >> >> control the House is in the 2012 elections. >> >> >> >> Gay-rights groups erupted in outrage over the vote, but Aubrey Sarvis, >> >> executive director of the Service Members Legal Defense Network, held >> >> out hope that the effort was not dead. >> >> >> >> Christopher Neff, deputy executive director of the Palm Center, a >> >> pro-gay think tank at UC Santa Barbara, said leaders must consider >> >> "every available legislative, executive and judicial option." The U.S. >> >> ban on military service by homosexuals puts the nation alone in the >> >> West, and in the company of only Bulgaria, Jordan, Poland, Turkey and >> >> the United Arab Emirates. >> >> >> >> Read >> >> more: >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/09/MN5V1GOF7... >> >> >> >> Read >> >> more: >> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/09/MN5V1GOF7... >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> >> Have a great day, >> >> Tommy >> > >> > -- >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> > >> > * Visit our other community at >> > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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