Please address your response to Keith.... I was just the messenger.
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > Marlie Markie Markie- > > Stop the hate, lies and smear! > > On 12/9/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, > > > > Keith is in his hotel bar right now getting another drink and a Burger. > He > > asked me to send you this...... > > > > Stop the hate, lies and smear Tom! > > > > It's unbecoming, and breaks that wholesome, clean, Christian oriented > image > > that you seem to be striving for!! > > > > KeithInDC > > > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> No, Joe Lieberman and other Indies are not Democrats, and cannot be > >> counted as one. > >> Wrong again. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 12/9/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, > >> > > >> > There I stand by all I said. There are 60 votes (you must include the > >> > two > >> > Ind. Senators and Joe Biden) for ANY good cause that the Dems want. > >> > > >> > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> Markie Markie Markie > >> >> > >> >> So you are saying that Dumbya's illegal undeclared war in Iraq was > >> >> imaginary and did not happen? > >> >> You are a pathetic denier. > >> >> > >> >> Your math is also off. 59 votes is not 60 votes, and the Un-American > >> >> Republicans are abusing the 60 vote cloture rule on every bill to > make > >> >> The President fail, their top agenda. > >> >> > >> >> Wrong again, dearie. > >> >> > >> >> On 12/9/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, > >> >> > > >> >> > War has not been declared since WWll, The first responders on 9/11 > >> >> > had > >> >> > insurance coverage, and Obama (your boy) is fighting to KEEP DADT > in > >> >> > the courts. > >> >> > > >> >> > Just how are ANY of these items a "Republican" problem when the > Dems > >> >> > have 60 senate votes for any GOOD cause and three simply don't > >> >> > vote ??? Do you really think they didn't know the result BEFORE the > >> >> > vote ?? > >> >> > > >> >> > On Dec 9, 7:28 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Grand Obstructionist Republicans Block DADT Repeal, Vote No to > >> helping > >> >> >> 9/11 Responders, Vote to Extend Bush Tax Cuts to the Wealthy, and > >> Vote > >> >> >> No to Funding the Troops in a Time of War Putting Troops in > Danger. > >> >> >> This is More Sickening and Disgusting Behavior From the GOP. Vote > >> them > >> >> >> ALL out of office in 2012. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Senate vote kills repeal of 'don't ask, don't tell' > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The Senate on Thursday killed repeal of the "don't ask, don't > tell" > >> >> >> ban on openly gay members of the military, delivering a blow to > >> >> >> President Obama one week after a Pentagon study urged an end to > the > >> >> >> Clinton-era ban. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Although last-ditch efforts were underway to try another avenue to > >> >> >> repeal the ban before Congress adjourns for the year, the > procedural > >> >> >> vote likely ends for the foreseeable future the possibility that > the > >> >> >> 17-year-old ban can be repealed legislatively, leaving the matter > to > >> >> >> the courts. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> A lawsuit by the Log Cabin Republicans, a gay conservative group, > >> that > >> >> >> challenges the ban is before the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of > Appeals > >> >> >> in San Francisco, which is expected to issue a ruling sometime > next > >> >> >> summer. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The 57-40 vote to move ahead on the defense authorization bill, > >> >> >> which > >> >> >> contained the repeal, fell three votes short of the 60 needed to > >> >> >> overcome a Republican filibuster. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Obama issued a statement saying, "As commander in chief, I have > >> >> >> pledged to repeal this discriminatory law." He urged continued > >> efforts > >> >> >> to repeal the law this year. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine, and Joseph Lieberman, I-Conn., said > >> they > >> >> >> would try to move a stand-alone bill, but it faces the same > >> procedural > >> >> >> roadblocks that killed the much more popular defense bill. Sen. > John > >> >> >> McCain, R-Ariz., has been blocking the defense bill since spring > >> >> >> because it would repeal the ban on gays, lesbians and bisexuals > >> >> >> serving openly in the military. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The Human Rights Campaign, a pro-gay lobbying group, demanded that > >> >> >> Obama act unilaterally to cease defense of the ban in court, and > >> >> >> halt > >> >> >> discharges of gay and lesbian troops under an emergency > "stop-loss" > >> >> >> military order put in place by the George W. Bush administration, > >> >> >> which prevents troop discharges in case of military need. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The Department of Justice has been defending the ban in court as a > >> >> >> matter of U.S. law. But Human Rights Campaign spokesperson Fred > >> Sainz, > >> >> >> said decisions about which laws to defend are "a subjective > judgment > >> >> >> made by every administration. They are not under an obligation to > >> >> >> defend every law and have not." > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Senate majority leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., called for a vote on > the > >> >> >> repeal bill knowing it would fail. He said Republicans kept > changing > >> >> >> their demands on the parameters of the debate of the defense bill > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> concluded they would continue blocking the bill. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Repeal supporters believed they had enough Republican votes to > pass > >> >> >> repeal of the gay ban if the broader defense bill had reached a > >> >> >> floor > >> >> >> debate. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Last week, the Pentagon weighed in strongly in favor of repeal, > >> >> >> issuing the results of an exhaustive, 10-month study, which > included > >> >> >> surveys of active-duty troops and focus groups. The study found > that > >> >> >> lifting the ban would not harm military effectiveness, unit > cohesion > >> >> >> or other measures of military prowess. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman > of > >> >> >> the Joint Chiefs of Staff, testified to Congress last week urging > >> >> >> repeal and warning that if Congress does not act, the courts will. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> McCain, who once said he would go along with the results of the > >> study, > >> >> >> called it flawed and cited continued resistance by combat troops > in > >> >> >> the Army and Marines, as well as special operations forces, to > >> serving > >> >> >> with gay troops. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Obama, who many times promised gay groups that repeal would happen > >> >> >> on > >> >> >> his watch, had personally phoned GOP Senators urging repeal. > Collins > >> >> >> and Lieberman had been trying to broker an agreement with Reid on > >> >> >> how > >> >> >> much time and how many amendments would be allowed for debate on > the > >> >> >> defense bill. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Collins rushed to the Senate floor just as Reid finished > announcing > >> >> >> that he would call up the bill, accusing him of sabotaging repeal. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "There was such a clear path for us to be able to get this bill > done > >> >> >> and I am perplexed and frustrated that this important bill is > going > >> to > >> >> >> become a victim of politics," Collins said. "Sen. Lieberman and I > >> have > >> >> >> been bargaining in good faith with the majority leader." > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Collins said she thought she had an agreement to allow a debate > with > >> >> >> 10 GOP amendments and five Democratic amendments. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> A senior Democratic aide said Reid had given Collins plenty of > >> >> >> ground > >> >> >> but that she had rejected the offer of 15 amendments. The Senate > was > >> >> >> running out of time and Collins was offering no clear path around > >> >> >> continuing GOP obstruction, the aide said, adding that Reid had > >> >> >> offered an open amendment process on the defense bill earlier in > the > >> >> >> year but Collins refused then to go along. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Reid was backed by Senate Armed Services Committee chair Carl > Levin, > >> >> >> D-Mich., who said the clock had run out. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> The vote kills for this session of Congress the entire defense > bill > >> >> >> - > >> >> >> the first time that has happened in 48 years. It also contained a > >> >> >> pay > >> >> >> increase for the military and many other components. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Republicans had insisted that their deal with Obama on tax cuts be > >> >> >> resolved before proceeding to any other business, including the > >> >> >> defense bill. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Repeal of the ban had passed the House earlier this year, but > >> >> >> Republican leaders who will assume control of the House in January > >> >> >> have said they have no intention of bringing up repeal when they > >> >> >> take > >> >> >> control for the next two years. The next chance Democrats have to > >> >> >> control the House is in the 2012 elections. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Gay-rights groups erupted in outrage over the vote, but Aubrey > >> Sarvis, > >> >> >> executive director of the Service Members Legal Defense Network, > >> >> >> held > >> >> >> out hope that the effort was not dead. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Christopher Neff, deputy executive director of the Palm Center, a > >> >> >> pro-gay think tank at UC Santa Barbara, said leaders must consider > >> >> >> "every available legislative, executive and judicial option." The > >> U.S. > >> >> >> ban on military service by homosexuals puts the nation alone in > the > >> >> >> West, and in the company of only Bulgaria, Jordan, Poland, Turkey > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> the United Arab Emirates. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Read > >> >> >> more: > >> >> > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/09/MN5V1GOF7. > >> .. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Read > >> >> >> more: > >> >> > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/12/09/MN5V1GOF7. > >> .. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > >> >> >> Have a great day, > >> >> >> Tommy > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> >> > For options & help see > http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >> >> > > >> >> > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >> >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > >> >> Have a great day, > >> >> Tommy > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >> >> > >> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Mark M. Kahle H. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >> > > >> > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > >> Have a great day, > >> Tommy > >> > >> -- > >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >> > >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark M. Kahle H. > > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Mark M. Kahle H. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
