Wrong again Lil' Markie Mark. You know very little about me, and you have pegged me wrong again and again. I would suggest that you speak for yourself, and not portend to know what I think.
On 1/6/11, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > Bruce, Tommy is stuck on Marx, Engels for his base ideology and he relies on > the new idea man Ayers for dealing with modern times.... Same list as > NoBama. > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: > >> no tommietard >> >> most of what government does is bad >> >> stopping them from doing things and spending money is good >> >> you are too stupid to understand that, being illiterate >> >> if you spent some time reading a book, something by James Buchanan or >> Bryan >> Caplan for instance >> >> and less time spamming airheaded fascist press releases you would know >> that >> >> at your age I am sure you will die first >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> No, gridlock is bad, Brucie girl. >>> >>> It means that NOTHING gets accomplished. >>> >>> Stagnation and the status quo are bad. >>> >>> On 1/6/11, Bruce Majors <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > gridlock is good Tomie >>> > >>> > it means nazis like you and your owners don't get to hurt people >>> > >>> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> The New Grand Obstructionist Tea Party Republican Congress >>> >> Begins....say hello to partisan gridlock, obstruction, investigations, >>> >> the demonization of Unions, legislation to harm the poor and working >>> >> class, efforts to make the President fail, and un-American bad >>> >> behavior for the next two years! >>> >> >>> >> Most of the Republicans in both the House and the Senate voted against >>> >> DADT repeal. I predict that they will now obstruct any further >>> >> Progressive and pro-LGBT legislation for as long as they hold control >>> >> of the House. We need to demonstrate and protest loudly. >>> >> >>> >> A polarized Congress in a US seeking pragmatism >>> >> >>> >> PHOTOS Previous Next >>> >> Outgoing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif. hands the gavel to the >>> >> new House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio during the first session of the >>> >> 112th Congress, Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2011, on Capitol Hill in >>> >> Washington. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak) (Charles Dharapak - AP) >>> >> >>> >> House Speaker-desigante John Boehner of Ohio greets House members >>> >> during the first session of the 112th Congress, on Capitol Hill in >>> >> Washington, Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2011. 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You are fully responsible for the >>> >> content that you post. >>> >> >>> >> By LIZ SIDOTI >>> >> The Associated Press >>> >> Wednesday, January 5, 2011; 2:32 PM >>> >> >>> >> WASHINGTON -- There's an inherent conflict in the country's new >>> >> political reality: a much more polarized Congress must answer to an >>> >> increasingly powerful center of the electorate that abhors >>> >> partisanship or risk its wrath in 2012. >>> >> >>> >> Much like President Bill Clinton after his party's disastrous 1994 >>> >> elections, President Barack Obama now has the chance to shift to the >>> >> middle as leaders on Capitol Hill struggle to strike a balance between >>> >> the desires of ideological purists in their ranks and the independent, >>> >> centrist voters who played a significant role in electing them. >>> >> >>> >> For Republicans and Democrats, that task began Wednesday when the new >>> >> Congress was sworn in; Republicans assumed control of the House and >>> >> padded their numbers in the Democratic-led Senate. >>> >> >>> >> "There's going to be politics. That's what happens in Washington. They >>> >> are going to play to their base for a certain period of time. But I'm >>> >> pretty confident that they're going to recognize that our job is to >>> >> govern . My hope is that John Boehner and Mitch McConnell will realize >>> >> that there will be plenty of time to campaign for 2012 in 2012," Obama >>> >> said this week about GOP leaders in the House and Senate, casting >>> >> himself as the compromiser in chief even while maneuvering for his >>> >> upcoming re-election. >>> >> >>> >> The president's tone was in stark contrast to his first two years when >>> >> he leveraged large Democratic majorities in Congress - and thwarted >>> >> Republicans - to enact sweeping laws, including an economic stimulus >>> >> measure and revamps of the health care and financial regulatory >>> >> systems, that independents greeted skeptically if not derisively. >>> >> After backing him heavily in his presidential bid, they punished him >>> >> in November by ending one-party rule in Washington. >>> >> >>> >> Now, with no serious Democratic primary challenger emerging to siphon >>> >> support from his liberal base, Obama already has begun moving to the >>> >> center. As 2010 ended, he compromised with Republicans to reach >>> >> bipartisan deals on tax cuts that paved the way for a rush of end of >>> >> year legislation, including repealing the ban on gays openly serving >>> >> in the military as well as a new nuclear treaty with Russia. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> It's clear the 2012 elections are in everyone's sights with obvious >>> >> objectives: Obama needs to win back middle-of-the-road voters, and >>> >> Republicans need to keep them happy, or at least not anger them. >>> >> >>> >> Their power was strongly felt in the last three elections. In 2006 and >>> >> 2008, independents furious with Republican governance gave Democrats >>> >> power in Congress and the White House. By 2010, these voters had grown >>> >> disillusioned by Democratic rule and sided with the GOP. >>> >> >>> >> And their sway is only growing. >>> >> >>> >> Today, more Americans are identifying themselves as independent while >>> >> majorities of the country view both the Democratic and Republican >>> >> parties unfavorably. Disaffected Republican and Democratic operatives >>> >> are forming groups to advocate on behalf of - if not organize - >>> >> unaffiliated voters, indicating that momentum may be building among >>> >> the center for increased political action. >>> >> >>> >> So, given all that, how did the Republican and Democratic caucuses in >>> >> Congress end up so much more conservative and liberal? >>> >> >>> >> The two-party American political system produces polarization in >>> >> Congress. Both the Republican and the Democratic parties hold >>> >> primaries to choose general election candidates. Those nominating >>> >> contests are dominated by the most vocal, active party members - >>> >> conservatives and liberals who tend to support like-minded people. >>> >> >>> >> Last year, that situation was even more pronounced as the tea party >>> >> coalition roiled GOP primaries and produced Republican nominees who >>> >> were far more conservative than usual. >>> >> >>> >> Now, the House Republican roster includes some seven dozen tea >>> >> party-backed lawmakers and other staunch conservatives. And moderate >>> >> "Blue Dog" Democrats are virtually extinct; scores lost their >>> >> swing-voting districts in a coast-to-coast GOP wave. >>> >> >>> >> "Compromise is a dirty word to the new members of Congress and a vital >>> >> word to the people they were sent to represent," said Matt Bennett, a >>> >> former Clinton aide and a vice president of the centrist Democratic >>> >> group Third Way. "It's a more polarized House representing an >>> >> electorate that is really seeking moderation. There's a big disconnect >>> >> between their caucuses and their voters." >>> >> >>> >> The Senate is arguably less polarized than the House; Democrats >>> >> succeeded in limiting the number of GOP takeaways to six. Still, new >>> >> Republican senators include tea party-supported Rand Paul of Kentucky >>> >> and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, as well as conservatives Pat Toomey of >>> >> Pennsylvania and Marco Rubio of Florida. >>> >> >>> >> From the outset, it's clear that Boehner is trying to strike a balance >>> >> between his constituents and his members. >>> >> >>> >> "This is the people's house. This is their Congress. It's about them, >>> >> not us," Boehner said after he took the gavel as speaker. >>> >> >>> >> Still, in a nod to his caucus' right flank, he scheduled a vote next >>> >> week on repealing the health care law. Republicans don't expect to >>> >> kill it. It makes sense for them not to; the GOP wants to run against >>> >> health care in 2012 and that important constituency - independents - >>> >> prefer that the law be changed, not repealed. House leaders facing >>> >> demands from the right to immediately cut spending also indicated they >>> >> wanted to cut $100 billion from the federal budget. But it didn't take >>> >> long before GOP leaders bowed to the reality of governing and scaled >>> >> back their goal. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Come February, during debate over a massive spending bill to keep the >>> >> government running, the country will see how successful Boehner has >>> >> been at keeping the right in line and how much Obama is willing to >>> >> compromise. >>> >> >>> >> The challenge for Boehner is to avoid what happened after the 1994 >>> >> Republican Revolution when the GOP took control of Congress. >>> >> >>> >> Back then, House Speaker Newt Gingrich failed to keep his >>> >> rabble-rousing conservative warriors in line, leading to a government >>> >> shutdown. Clinton came out on top, and handily won re-election in >>> >> 1996. >>> >> >>> >> Obama already has signaled a desire to go the route of Clinton, >>> >> signaling a willingness to work with Republicans on several issues, >>> >> including trade deals with Colombia and Panama as well as the >>> >> reauthorization of the No Child Left Behind education act. >>> >> >>> >> On Day 1 of the new Congress, the fight for middle-of-the-road voters >>> >> was well under way. It won't end until November 2012. >>> >> >>> >> More: >>> >> >>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/05/AR2011010503216_2.html >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >>> >> Have a great day, >>> >> Tommy >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >> >>> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>> >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> > >>> > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >>> Have a great day, >>> Tommy >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>> >>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >>> >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> > > > > -- > Mark M. Kahle H. > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
