You seem to be a negative cynic who disagrees with most everything. "It's still far too easy for a small-minded yahoo to champion discrimination based on orientation and race, and it's just as easy for another small-minded yahoo somewhere else to believe the red states are indeed "meccas of racism and bigotry." If any good can come out of something as unfathomably horrible as Saturday's mass shooting, let it be that it shakes up a few preconceptions. That it shows the world that a hero can be gay or straight, can speak English or Spanish or both, and that stupid laws can exist in places full of good people. And anyone who has any doubt of what kind of person deserves to serve next to him in battle, or stand before their community and declare their love, or go to school, or walk down the street without being asked for paperwork needs to hear that and remember that, again and again until it sinks in. Yes, the "gay Hispanic American" saved a life on Saturday, and yes, it does matter."
On 1/11/11, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > I did read the article, but I think her conclusion is wrong. No one > has ever said a gay person could not perform in the military. DADT > certainly didn't make that argument. The argument has always been that > the presence of a gay man amongst heterosexual men might be > uncomfortable and cause problems in an environment where privacy is > often non-existent and where good comradely can be the difference > between life and death. > > On Jan 11, 11:44 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> If you had bothered to read the articles and links I just provided, >> you would have seen why it matters very much. >> >> To repeat: >> >> Gabrielle Giffords Assistant is Gay and it Matters Says Salon.com >> >> http://www.shewired.com/Article.cfm?ID=26427 >> >> On 1/11/11, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > The second thread was accidental, but it is proving to be important. >> >> > There are many other articles which do in fact point to the fact that >> > Hernandez the Hero is gay. >> >> > Keith, your statements are pathetic and homophobic. laced with animus, >> > denial, and vile Conservative hatred. >> >> > Here is empirical proof and documentation: >> >> > Go to these links and read these Headlines and articles. There are >> > plenty >> > more. >> >> > Gay Intern Credited with Keeping Rep. Giffords Alive >> >> >http://blogout.justout.com/?p=25937 >> >> > Gay Intern Helped Save Congresswoman Gifford's Life >> >> >http://www.gayapolis.com/news/artdisplay.php?artid=6224 >> >> > US Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona, a strong supporter of gay rights >> >> >http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2011/01/us-rep-gabriel... >> >> > Gabrielle Giffords Assistant is Gay and it Matters Says Salon.com >> >> >http://www.shewired.com/Article.cfm?ID=26427 >> >> > Two gay heroes thwart assassinations -- what a difference 35 years make >> >> >http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2011/01/two-gay-heroes-thwart-as... >> >> > Westboro Baptists Thank God For Giffords Shooting, Will Picket Funerals >> >> >http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/westboro_baptists_t... >> >> > LGBT Groups Rally Around Congresswoman Giffords >> >> >http://www.edenfantasys.com/sexis/sex-and-society/lgbt-groups-rally-g... >> >> > On 1/11/11, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> What's with starting a second, identical thread on the same article? >> >> >> And the fact remains, you cited an article that never once mentions >> >> his being gay, yet you made that a big point of the thread title and >> >> opening comment. Why did you do that? It has no bearing on what >> >> happened. Is this some sort of gay pride issue for you... that someone >> >> who is gay is capable of doing something brave and intelligent? If >> >> that's the case, you've set the gay movement back several years. >> >> >> On Jan 10, 8:25 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Daniel Hernandez, gay 20 year old intern, likely saved Rep. Gabrielle >> >>> Giffords' life with first aid >> >> >>> Daniel Hernandez had been U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' intern for >> >>> five days when she was shot Saturday outside Tucson. >> >> >>> The junior at the University of Arizona was helping check people in at >> >>> the "Congress on Your Corner" event when he heard gunfire. He was >> >>> about 30 feet from the congresswoman. When the shots began, he ran >> >>> toward them. >> >> >>> "I don't even know if the gunfire had stopped," he said Saturday night >> >>> as he kept a vigil at the University Medical Center cafeteria, >> >>> gathered near a TV watching tributes and getting updates. >> >> >>> When the shots began that morning, he saw many people lying on the >> >>> ground, including a young girl. Some were bleeding. Hernandez said he >> >>> moved from person to person checking pulses. >> >> >>> "First the neck, then the wrist," he said. One man was already dead. >> >>> Then he saw Giffords. She had fallen and was lying contorted on the >> >>> sidewalk. She was bleeding. >> >> >>> Using his hand, Hernandez applied pressure to the entry wound on her >> >>> forehead. He pulled her into his lap, holding her upright against him >> >>> so she wouldn't choke on her own blood. Giffords was conscious, but >> >>> quiet. >> >> >>> Ron Barber, Giffords' district director, was next to her. Hernandez >> >>> told a bystander how to apply pressure to one of Barber's wounds. >> >> >>> Barber told Hernandez, "Make sure you stay with Gabby. Make sure you >> >>> help Gabby." >> >> >>> Hernandez used his hand to apply pressure until someone from inside >> >>> Safeway brought him clean smocks from the meat department. He used >> >>> them to apply pressure on the entrance wound, unaware there was an >> >>> exit wound. He never let go of her. >> >> >>> He stayed with Giffords until paramedics arrived. They strapped her to >> >>> a board and loaded her into an ambulance. Hernandez climbed in with >> >>> her. On the ride to the hospital, he held her hand. She squeezed his >> >>> back. >> >> >>> When they arrived at the hospital, Hernandez was soaked in blood. His >> >>> family brought him clean clothes because the FBI took his for >> >>> evidence. >> >> >>> He waited at the hospital while she went into surgery. He needed to >> >>> tell police what had happened. He overheard people walking by talking >> >>> about how Giffords had died. He also heard this on NPR. Later, he >> >>> learned she had lived. >> >> >>> "I was ecstatic," he said. "She was one of the people I've looked up >> >>> to. Knowing she was alive and still fighting was good news. She's >> >>> definitely a fighter, whether for her own life, or standing up for >> >>> people in southern Arizona." >> >> >>> The fact that Hernandez was nearby and able to react quickly probably >> >>> saved Giffords' life, said state Rep. Matt Heinz, D-Tucson, and a >> >>> hospital physician. He talked to Hernandez at the hospital after the >> >>> shooting. >> >> >>> Eight hours after the shooting, Hernandez stood with Giffords' friends >> >>> and staff and told them what had happened. The tall, strong >> >>> 20-year-old said, "Of course you're afraid, you just kind of have to >> >>> do what you can." >> >> >>> They hugged and thanked him. Later, he sat with his mom and sisters >> >>> and told them about his friends and the staffers who had died that >> >>> day. >> >> >>> "You just have to be calm and collected," he said. "You do no good to >> >>> anyone if you have a breakdown. . . . It was probably not the best >> >>> idea to run toward the gunshots, but people needed help." >> >> >>> Read >> >>> more:http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/09/20110109daniel-hern... >> >> >>> -- >> >>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> >>> Have a great day, >> >>> Tommy >> >> >> -- >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >> For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> >> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> > -- >> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> > Have a great day, >> > Tommy >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
