Actually not at all. Synonyms for disagreeable are cross, grouchy, surly or testy .
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy News" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:42:03 PM Subject: Re: Daniel Hernandez, gay 20 year old intern, likely saved Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' life with first aid Disagreeable and Negative are synonymous. Cynical is self explanatory. On 1/11/11, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: > And there you go making unfounded comments. Point out where/how I am > being negative and cynical. Disagreeable is a new claim, and obviously > since I'm not in agreement with you I am being disagreeable. If you > can't handle that you shouldn't be participating on discussion boards. > > On Jan 11, 1:09 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> There you go being negative, cynical, and disagreeable yet again. >> >> On 1/11/11, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Where have I been negative and where have I been cynical? >> >> > I said her conclusion is wrong and explained why. That's not being >> > negative or cynical. She misrepresents what DADT is all about. The >> > concept of DADT is not that a gay can't perform the mission, it only >> > says we won't ask your sexual orientation and you won't tell us and >> > we'll all just get along. >> >> > Of course there are small minded yahoos who will demean anyone who >> > doesn't fit their 'acceptability' model. It's going to take a very >> > long time to breed them out of the human race. But I think most level >> > headed folks, even those who have issues with gays, understand being >> > gay doesn't preclude them from performing heroic deeds. That you don't >> > understand this is your problem, not ours. Personally, I took nothing >> > more out of the article when "gay" was added to it because I've known >> > all along gays are every bit as capable as heterosexuals to do what he >> > did. >> >> > On Jan 11, 12:15 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You seem to be a negative cynic who disagrees with most everything. >> >> >> "It's still far too easy for a small-minded yahoo to champion >> >> discrimination based on orientation and race, and it's just as easy >> >> for another small-minded yahoo somewhere else to believe the red >> >> states are indeed "meccas of racism and bigotry." If any good can come >> >> out of something as unfathomably horrible as Saturday's mass shooting, >> >> let it be that it shakes up a few preconceptions. That it shows the >> >> world that a hero can be gay or straight, can speak English or Spanish >> >> or both, and that stupid laws can exist in places full of good people. >> >> And anyone who has any doubt of what kind of person deserves to serve >> >> next to him in battle, or stand before their community and declare >> >> their love, or go to school, or walk down the street without being >> >> asked for paperwork needs to hear that and remember that, again and >> >> again until it sinks in. Yes, the "gay Hispanic American" saved a life >> >> on Saturday, and yes, it does matter." >> >> >> On 1/11/11, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > I did read the article, but I think her conclusion is wrong. No one >> >> > has ever said a gay person could not perform in the military. DADT >> >> > certainly didn't make that argument. The argument has always been >> >> > that >> >> > the presence of a gay man amongst heterosexual men might be >> >> > uncomfortable and cause problems in an environment where privacy is >> >> > often non-existent and where good comradely can be the difference >> >> > between life and death. >> >> >> > On Jan 11, 11:44 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> If you had bothered to read the articles and links I just provided, >> >> >> you would have seen why it matters very much. >> >> >> >> To repeat: >> >> >> >> Gabrielle Giffords Assistant is Gay and it Matters Says Salon.com >> >> >> >>http://www.shewired.com/Article.cfm?ID=26427 >> >> >> >> On 1/11/11, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > The second thread was accidental, but it is proving to be >> >> >> > important. >> >> >> >> > There are many other articles which do in fact point to the fact >> >> >> > that >> >> >> > Hernandez the Hero is gay. >> >> >> >> > Keith, your statements are pathetic and homophobic. laced with >> >> >> > animus, >> >> >> > denial, and vile Conservative hatred. >> >> >> >> > Here is empirical proof and documentation: >> >> >> >> > Go to these links and read these Headlines and articles. There are >> >> >> > plenty >> >> >> > more. >> >> >> >> > Gay Intern Credited with Keeping Rep. Giffords Alive >> >> >> >> >http://blogout.justout.com/?p=25937 >> >> >> >> > Gay Intern Helped Save Congresswoman Gifford's Life >> >> >> >> >http://www.gayapolis.com/news/artdisplay.php?artid=6224 >> >> >> >> > US Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Arizona, a strong supporter of gay >> >> >> > rights >> >> >> >> >http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2011/01/us-rep-gabriel... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Gabrielle Giffords Assistant is Gay and it Matters Says Salon.com >> >> >> >> >http://www.shewired.com/Article.cfm?ID=26427 >> >> >> >> > Two gay heroes thwart assassinations -- what a difference 35 years >> >> >> > make >> >> >> >> >http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2011/01/two-gay-heroes-thwart-as... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Westboro Baptists Thank God For Giffords Shooting, Will Picket >> >> >> > Funerals >> >> >> >> >http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/westboro_baptists_t... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > LGBT Groups Rally Around Congresswoman Giffords >> >> >> >> >http://www.edenfantasys.com/sexis/sex-and-society/lgbt-groups-rally-g... >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On 1/11/11, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> What's with starting a second, identical thread on the same >> >> >> >> article? >> >> >> >> >> And the fact remains, you cited an article that never once >> >> >> >> mentions >> >> >> >> his being gay, yet you made that a big point of the thread title >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> opening comment. Why did you do that? It has no bearing on what >> >> >> >> happened. Is this some sort of gay pride issue for you... that >> >> >> >> someone >> >> >> >> who is gay is capable of doing something brave and intelligent? >> >> >> >> If >> >> >> >> that's the case, you've set the gay movement back several years. >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 10, 8:25 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Daniel Hernandez, gay 20 year old intern, likely saved Rep. >> >> >> >>> Gabrielle >> >> >> >>> Giffords' life with first aid >> >> >> >> >>> Daniel Hernandez had been U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' intern >> >> >> >>> for >> >> >> >>> five days when she was shot Saturday outside Tucson. >> >> >> >> >>> The junior at the University of Arizona was helping check people >> >> >> >>> in >> >> >> >>> at >> >> >> >>> the "Congress on Your Corner" event when he heard gunfire. He >> >> >> >>> was >> >> >> >>> about 30 feet from the congresswoman. When the shots began, he >> >> >> >>> ran >> >> >> >>> toward them. >> >> >> >> >>> "I don't even know if the gunfire had stopped," he said Saturday >> >> >> >>> night >> >> >> >>> as he kept a vigil at the University Medical Center cafeteria, >> >> >> >>> gathered near a TV watching tributes and getting updates. >> >> >> >> >>> When the shots began that morning, he saw many people lying on >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >>> ground, including a young girl. Some were bleeding. Hernandez >> >> >> >>> said >> >> >> >>> he >> >> >> >>> moved from person to person checking pulses. >> >> >> >> >>> "First the neck, then the wrist," he said. One man was already >> >> >> >>> dead. >> >> >> >>> Then he saw Giffords. She had fallen and was lying contorted on >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >>> sidewalk. She was bleeding. >> >> >> >> >>> Using his hand, Hernandez applied pressure to the entry wound on >> >> >> >>> her >> >> >> >>> forehead. He pulled her into his lap, holding her upright >> >> >> >>> against >> >> >> >>> him >> >> >> >>> so she wouldn't choke on her own blood. Giffords was conscious, >> >> >> >>> but >> >> >> >>> quiet. >> >> >> >> >>> Ron Barber, Giffords' district director, was next to her. >> >> >> >>> Hernandez >> >> >> >>> told a bystander how to apply pressure to one of Barber's >> >> >> >>> wounds. >> >> >> >> >>> Barber told Hernandez, "Make sure you stay with Gabby. Make sure >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >> >>> help Gabby." >> >> >> >> >>> Hernandez used his hand to apply pressure until someone from >> >> >> >>> inside >> >> >> >>> Safeway brought him clean smocks from the meat department. He >> >> >> >>> used >> >> >> >>> them to apply pressure on the entrance wound, unaware there was >> >> >> >>> an >> >> >> >>> exit wound. He never let go of her. >> >> >> >> >>> He stayed with Giffords until paramedics arrived. They strapped >> >> >> >>> her >> >> >> >>> to >> >> >> >>> a board and loaded her into an ambulance. Hernandez climbed in >> >> >> >>> with >> >> >> >>> her. On the ride to the hospital, he held her hand. She squeezed >> >> >> >>> his >> >> >> >>> back. >> >> >> >> >>> When they arrived at the hospital, Hernandez was soaked in >> >> >> >>> blood. >> >> >> >>> His >> >> >> >>> family brought him clean clothes because the FBI took his for >> >> >> >>> evidence. >> >> >> >> >>> He waited at the hospital while she went into surgery. He needed >> >> >> >>> to >> >> >> >>> tell police what had happened. He overheard people walking by >> >> >> >>> talking >> >> >> >>> about how Giffords had died. He also heard this on NPR. Later, >> >> >> >>> he >> >> >> >>> learned she had lived. >> >> >> >> >>> "I was ecstatic," he said. "She was one of the people I've >> >> >> >>> looked >> >> >> >>> up >> >> >> >>> to. Knowing she was alive and still fighting was good news. >> >> >> >>> She's >> >> >> >>> definitely a fighter, whether for her own life, or standing up >> >> >> >>> for >> >> >> >>> people in southern Arizona." >> >> >> >> >>> The fact that Hernandez was nearby and able to react quickly >> >> >> >>> probably >> >> >> >>> saved Giffords' life, said state Rep. Matt Heinz, D-Tucson, and >> >> >> >>> a >> >> >> >>> hospital physician. He talked to Hernandez at the hospital after >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >>> shooting. >> >> >> >> >>> Eight hours after the shooting, Hernandez stood with Giffords' >> >> >> >>> friends >> >> >> >>> and staff and told them what had happened. The tall, strong >> >> >> >>> 20-year-old said, "Of course you're afraid, you just kind of >> >> >> >>> have >> >> >> >>> to >> >> >> >>> do what you can." >> >> >> >> >>> They hugged and thanked him. Later, he sat with his mom and >> >> >> >>> sisters >> >> >> >>> and told them about his friends and the staffers who had died >> >> >> >>> that >> >> >> >>> day. >> >> >> >> >>> "You just have to be calm and collected," he said. "You do no >> >> >> >>> good >> >> >> >>> to >> >> >> >>> anyone if you have a breakdown. . . . It was probably not the >> >> >> >>> best >> >> >> >>> idea to run toward the gunshots, but people needed help." >> >> >> >> >>> Read >> >> >> >>> more:http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/01/09/20110109daniel-hern... >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >> >>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> >> >> >>> Have a great day, >> >> >> >>> Tommy >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >> >> >> For options & help >> >> >> >> seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> >> >> >> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> >> >> >> * It's active and moderated. 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