Wrong again Keithie Keith. More lies from you. I know who Dupcik is. I get my news from many sources, including some Right wing places, as I have told you before. Your memory is quite poor.
On 1/14/11, Keith In Köln <[email protected]> wrote: > Once again, TommyTomTomForNews doesn't even know who you are talking about > Dick!! He has never even heard of Dupcik, because the far left hate sites > he gets his news from are not covering this bozo!! > > > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sheriffs in Arizona are misguided Reich wingers who persecute >> immigrants and gays. They hate. They lie. >> >> On 1/14/11, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Even the sheriff has admitted that the hate speech you keep calling it >> > had nothing to do with what happened. The public doesn't believe it >> > either. Wise up, little boy, your games ain't working. >> > >> > On 01/14/2011 08:29 PM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> Read this again, and again. >> >> >> >> "We know, >> >> too, that Giffords's Tea Party–backed opponent, Jesse Kelly, invited >> >> supporters to "shoot a fully automatic M16" to "get on target for >> >> victory"; that Sarah Palin placed Giffords's district in gunsight >> >> cross hairs in campaign ads; that Nevada Senate candidate Sharron >> >> Angle cheerfully proposed "Second Amendment remedies" for political >> >> disagreements. We know that threats to members of Congress increased >> >> dramatically last year. >> >> >> >> Republicans, gun activists and Tea Party adherents are trying to put >> >> distance between themselves and the Tucson rampage by pointing to >> >> Loughner's evident mental illness. But Loughner's mental state does >> >> not absolve the lock-and-loaders of responsibility. To the contrary: >> >> it is well established in psychiatric literature that the delusions >> >> experienced by schizophrenics are shaped by the language, images, >> >> resentments and fears that permeate their wider culture in any >> >> particular country or time. Those politicians and pundits inviting or >> >> implying "Second Amendment remedies" for liberal "conspiracies" on >> >> immigration, healthcare, President Obama's citizenship, gun regulation >> >> and on and on are selling a daily dose of eliminationist fantasy to >> >> the angriest and most estranged minds—including those unable to draw a >> >> distinction between gunsight as metaphor and real-life target practice >> >> on politicians." >> >> >> >> "To raise these issues does not exploit or politicize the horror in >> >> Tucson. Rather, it recognizes that the political currency of the right >> >> has long made a dangerous world more dangerous: shredding social >> >> safety nets, flooding our country and our neighbors with weapons, >> >> pitting civil rights and progressive social policy against reckless, >> >> I've-got-mine individualism backed up by insistent and violent >> >> paramilitary visions. Jared Lee Loughner appears to be a conspiracy of >> >> one. But the gun in his hand, the language and images he absorbed >> >> daily, even the fact that no institution was prepared to catch him as >> >> he went over the edge—those are a product of political design and >> >> intention nurtured over a generation. There is an opportunity now to >> >> show a different America. That doesn't mean only rejecting gunsight >> >> ads or turning away from threatening campaign rhetoric; it means >> >> leaders from President Obama on down clearly articulating a social >> >> compact, which is the only real route to safety for politicians and >> >> citizens alike." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/14/11, Tommy News<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> More lies, hate, and smear from Lil Keithie Keith. >> >>> >> >>> I am not angry, because I realize what a bunch of misinformed >> >>> extremist fools you and the other Grand Opressive Old Tea Party >> >>> members are. I am also not a Marxist or a Socialist, and you continue >> >>> to lie and spread false slander about that too, Lil Keithie Big Liar! >> >>> >> >>> On 1/14/11, Keith In Köln<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> It's nothing but hate Dick, as you well know. The far left >> extremists, >> >>>> dream of a "Progressive" socialistic America has failed, and folks >> like >> >>>> TommyTomTom are bitter, angry, and can do nothing but spew vile >> hatred. >> >>>> >> >>>> The good thing, is that TommyTomTom's and his angry hateful crew of >> far >> >>>> left >> >>>> extremists little ploy has failed. Less than ten percent of >> >>>> Americans >> >>>> believe that Loughner was influenced by conservative political >> thought, >> >>>> or >> >>>> that gun laws are too lax. More importantly, the far left >> extremists' >> >>>> hate >> >>>> filled rants are clearly known to most Americans. >> >>>> >> >>>> TommyTomTomForNews, as well as the Marxists and socialists who spew >> this >> >>>> vile hate have failed. They know it, Americans know it, and we >> >>>> rightfully >> >>>> should mock them for their hateful, untruthful and despicable rants! >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:21 AM, dick thompson >> >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Oh my, gotta believe every word of this - who could disbelieve The >> >>>>> Nation >> >>>>> (offshoot of the Daily Worker and the CPUSA). / LOL >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 01/14/2011 06:11 PM, Tommy News wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Tragedy in Arizona >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -by The Editors >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> It took only seconds for a self-appointed assassin armed with a >> >>>>>> semiautomatic pistol to shoot Representative Gabrielle Giffords >> >>>>>> through the head; to kill US District Court Judge John Roll and >> >>>>>> five >> >>>>>> others; and to wound fourteen more people. It took barely longer >> than >> >>>>>> that for the news of the Tucson shootings to shock a political >> culture >> >>>>>> numbed by war, economic crisis and two years of lock-and-load >> >>>>>> rhetoric. On the other hand, even in the Internet age, criminal >> >>>>>> investigation and psychiatric examination take time. It's too soon >> to >> >>>>>> know why this lone gunman went on his rampage or whether anyone >> could >> >>>>>> have stopped him. All the early signs point to a deeply disturbed >> >>>>>> young man who stalked Giffords and planned her assassination over >> >>>>>> months while friends, classmates and teachers expressed growing >> alarm >> >>>>>> at his outbursts and Internet postings. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Related Content >> >>>>>> Jared Loughner's Glock: Weapon of Mass Destruction >> >>>>>> Varieties of Hatred >> >>>>>> Giffords Shooting Reveals Flaws in US Mental Health Services >> >>>>>> Arizona Faces 'Lethal Combination' of Guns and Hate Speech >> >>>>>> An Attack on Government, an Attack on the Public, an Attack on >> >>>>>> Democracy >> >>>>>> About the Author >> >>>>>> The EditorsAlso by The Author[ Click for More ] >> >>>>>> Lame Duck Congress Victories (Barack Obama, Congress, Society) >> >>>>>> The repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," the passage of a landmark >> food >> >>>>>> safety bill and the narrow defeat of the DREAM Act all prove that >> >>>>>> organizing and educating across issues really works. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> The Editors >> >>>>>> 2 comments Obama's Afghan Mission Creep (Barack Obama, War and >> >>>>>> Peace, >> >>>>>> Politics) >> >>>>>> With the US set to remain in Afghanistan until 2014, the war has >> taken >> >>>>>> on a life of its own, disconnected from any strategic goal. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> The Editors >> >>>>>> 6 comments Related Topics >> >>>>>> Jared Lee Loughner Social Issues Technology Tucson War For all that >> we >> >>>>>> don't know about Jared Lee Loughner, there is a lot we do know >> >>>>>> about >> >>>>>> the circumstances of this shooting. We know Loughner purchased his >> gun >> >>>>>> legally at a sporting goods store. We know that Giffords had >> >>>>>> already >> >>>>>> received well-publicized threats and endured a smashed door for her >> >>>>>> vote to support President Obama's healthcare bill and that Judge >> Roll >> >>>>>> had drawn threats for his ruling in a key immigration case. We >> >>>>>> know, >> >>>>>> too, that Giffords's Tea Party–backed opponent, Jesse Kelly, >> >>>>>> invited >> >>>>>> supporters to "shoot a fully automatic M16" to "get on target for >> >>>>>> victory"; that Sarah Palin placed Giffords's district in gunsight >> >>>>>> cross hairs in campaign ads; that Nevada Senate candidate Sharron >> >>>>>> Angle cheerfully proposed "Second Amendment remedies" for political >> >>>>>> disagreements. We know that threats to members of Congress >> >>>>>> increased >> >>>>>> dramatically last year. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Republicans, gun activists and Tea Party adherents are trying to >> >>>>>> put >> >>>>>> distance between themselves and the Tucson rampage by pointing to >> >>>>>> Loughner's evident mental illness. But Loughner's mental state does >> >>>>>> not absolve the lock-and-loaders of responsibility. To the >> >>>>>> contrary: >> >>>>>> it is well established in psychiatric literature that the delusions >> >>>>>> experienced by schizophrenics are shaped by the language, images, >> >>>>>> resentments and fears that permeate their wider culture in any >> >>>>>> particular country or time. Those politicians and pundits inviting >> or >> >>>>>> implying "Second Amendment remedies" for liberal "conspiracies" on >> >>>>>> immigration, healthcare, President Obama's citizenship, gun >> regulation >> >>>>>> and on and on are selling a daily dose of eliminationist fantasy to >> >>>>>> the angriest and most estranged minds—including those unable to >> >>>>>> draw >> a >> >>>>>> distinction between gunsight as metaphor and real-life target >> practice >> >>>>>> on politicians. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Conservatives don't usually show such interest in the mentally ill. >> >>>>>>> From the early 1980s, when President Reagan scrapped funding for >> >>>>>> community mental health clinics, through 2008, when most >> >>>>>> Republicans >> >>>>>> tried to kill parity for mental health insurance coverage in the >> >>>>>> healthcare bill, conservatives have shaped a system that denies >> >>>>>> essential services and discourages intervention when people like >> >>>>>> Loughner fall over the edge. Psychiatrist Frank Ochberg, former >> >>>>>> director of the Michigan Mental Health Department, puts it this >> >>>>>> way: >> >>>>>> "School officials want to protect their communities, so they expel >> >>>>>> students without follow-up. We grant these delusional young men >> >>>>>> privacy, freedom and civil rights. We do not adequately fund their >> >>>>>> care, nor do we compel treatment unless they go way over the line, >> and >> >>>>>> then we use forensic centers, jails and prisons." This crisis is >> >>>>>> particularly acute in Arizona, which has a theoretically strong law >> >>>>>> allowing for intervention on behalf of citizens at risk but where >> >>>>>> escalating budget deficits have reduced intervention to >> >>>>>> irrelevance. >> >>>>>> As Arizona State University's Morrison Institute documented in a >> >>>>>> report released just a few weeks ago, since 2008 the state's >> >>>>>> funding >> >>>>>> for mental health services has been cut by 47 percent, with many >> >>>>>> programs eliminated altogether, resulting in "thousands of >> >>>>>> Arizonans >> >>>>>> and their families facing either no publicly funded behavioral >> health >> >>>>>> treatment or severely restricted access to such services." >> >>>>>> (Contrast >> >>>>>> that with Giffords, who despite her reputation as a Blue Dog fiscal >> >>>>>> conservative not only voted for mental health parity in insurance >> >>>>>> coverage but fought for expanded mental healthcare for veterans, >> >>>>>> and >> >>>>>> in her last term in the State Senate was named legislator of the >> year >> >>>>>> by the Arizona Mental Health Association.) >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> In Tucson, Loughner's apparent mental illness combined fatally with >> >>>>>> one of the country's most irresponsibly lax gun laws, driven by a >> >>>>>> firearms lobby so powerful that last year Governor Jan Brewer >> >>>>>> signed >> a >> >>>>>> measure ending the longstanding requirement for a permit to carry >> >>>>>> concealed weapons. Here too, Loughner's rampage is only one >> expression >> >>>>>> of a far broader crisis. As Washington Post investigative reporters >> >>>>>> Sari Horwitz and James Grimaldi recently documented, Arizona gun >> shops >> >>>>>> are prime sources for the thousands of weapons arming Mexico's drug >> >>>>>> cartels. The same ease with which Loughner obtained his weapon and >> >>>>>> extended magazine clip is feeding massive violence across the >> >>>>>> border >> >>>>>> just miles from Tucson. Last weekend, Arizona got a taste of what >> its >> >>>>>> guns have long delivered to Mexico, including the assassinations of >> >>>>>> judges and elected officials. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> To raise these issues does not exploit or politicize the horror in >> >>>>>> Tucson. Rather, it recognizes that the political currency of the >> right >> >>>>>> has long made a dangerous world more dangerous: shredding social >> >>>>>> safety nets, flooding our country and our neighbors with weapons, >> >>>>>> pitting civil rights and progressive social policy against >> >>>>>> reckless, >> >>>>>> I've-got-mine individualism backed up by insistent and violent >> >>>>>> paramilitary visions. Jared Lee Loughner appears to be a conspiracy >> of >> >>>>>> one. But the gun in his hand, the language and images he absorbed >> >>>>>> daily, even the fact that no institution was prepared to catch him >> as >> >>>>>> he went over the edge—those are a product of political design and >> >>>>>> intention nurtured over a generation. There is an opportunity now >> >>>>>> to >> >>>>>> show a different America. That doesn't mean only rejecting gunsight >> >>>>>> ads or turning away from threatening campaign rhetoric; it means >> >>>>>> leaders from President Obama on down clearly articulating a social >> >>>>>> compact, which is the only real route to safety for politicians and >> >>>>>> citizens alike. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> More: >> >>>>>> http://www.thenation.com/article/157730/tragedy-arizona >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >>>>> For options& help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >>>>> >> >>>>> * Visit our other community at >> >>>>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ <http://www.politicalforum.com/>< >> http://www.politicalforum.com/> * It's >> >>>>> active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the >> >>>>> latest breaking news, and more. >> >>>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >>>> For options& help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >>>> >> >>>> * Visit our other community at >> >>>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >>>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> >>>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> >>> Have a great day, >> >>> Tommy >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> > >> > * Visit our other community at >> > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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