One other observation,  and I don't know why this is, but when I have had a
few biers,  I tend to be less worried or self concious I think, with my
German, and seem to think that I am fluent!!  <Grin>!  I do think however,
that when you are actually,  "Thinking" in the language, you can actually
frame the terms and language a bit better.....I don't know exactly how to
say what it is that I am trying to convey,  but when I "think" in Spanish,
I speak better Spanish, and the same with German.  Right now, I have to
search for words, in my mind, for German, and I am not at that point once
again, like I am in español, where I am thinking in German.




On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Keith In Köln <[email protected]>wrote:

> Nope, Tommy,  I envy you!  I genuinely wish that I spoke German, at least
> much better than I do.  At one point in time in my life, when I was a young
> man, age 20-22, and living over here for about three and a half years when I
> was in the United States military,  I thought that I spoke relatively good
> conversational German.   Also,  I lived in Montreal for about a year, and
> took French, but I have never considered myself to be even closely
> conversational in French....Being that I was  born and raised in Tampa
> Florida, I am embarassed that my Spanish is not better than it is.  I do
> know enough to say:
>
> "Je nas parle pas no Français tout se bon";  und, "Mi español es muy
> pequeño"
>
>   On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I gave it a shot, and I did not find it difficult at all, but I hope
>> Keithie Keith will not call me a Socailist again simply because I
>> studied French. I chose French because it is a beautiful language and
>> an eloquent culture. J'aime mieux des pommes frites, mais pas des
>> "freedom fries"! Le truaduiser, c'est finis. Voila.
>>
>> Melancholy
>>
>> -by Leo Ferre
>>
>> Melancholy is a dead end street, that nothing it can say,
>>  It's ten years of mush in a memory
>>  this is what we want without having to choose
>>  Melancholy is a lost cat one believes one has found
>>  It's a big dog in the world we know
>>  It's the name of a street where you will never go
>>  Melancholy, it is only found in Opera Square
>>  When the cop yells orders and he does not know
>>  Whether you throw up (puke) on the way back home
>>  It's relaxing, turn on the television,
>> Look distracted with a Zitrone juice (a citrus drink brand)
>> Speak in the third person to one who does not play (respond),  melancholy
>>
>>  Melancholy is seeing a beggar in the tax bureau,
>>  It Is seeing two lovers who read the newspaper
>>  It Is to see one's mother every time one gets hurt
>>  Melancholy is watching (Greta) Garbo in Queen Christina again
>>  It's goodbye Charlie in the age of Chaplin
>>
>>
>>
>> Leo Ferre - La Mélancolie
>>
>>
>>
>> La mélancolie, c'est une rue barrée, c'est c'qu'on peut pas dire
>> C'est dix ans d'purée dans un souvenir
>> C'est ce qu'on voudrait sans devoir choisir
>> La mélancolie, c'est un chat perdu qu'on croit retrouvé
>> C'est un chien de plus dans le monde qu'on sait
>> C'est un nom de rue où l'on va jamais
>> La mélancolie, c'est se r'trouver seul place de l'Opéra
>> Quand le flic t'engueule et qu'il ne sait pas
>> Que tu le dégueules en rentrant chez toi
>> C'est décontracté, ouvrir la télé
>> Et r'garder distrait un Zitrone pressé
>> T'parler du tiercé que tu n'a pas joué, la mélancolie
>>
>> La mélancolie, c'est voir un mendiant chez l'conseil fiscal
>> C'est voir deux amants qui lisent le journal
>> C'est voir sa maman chaque fois qu'on s'voit mal
>> La mélancolie, c'est revoir Garbo dans la reine Christine
>> C'est revoir Charlot à l'âge de Chaplin
>>
>>
>>
>>  On 1/15/11, Cold Water <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Do you want to give it a shot Tommy?  I have been advised that the
>> reason
>> > machine translations can't cope is because: "It's Quebecois French, not
>> > International French."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Leo Ferre - La Mélancolie
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > La mélancolie, c'est une rue barrée, c'est c'qu'on peut pas dire
>> > C'est dix ans d'purée dans un souvenir
>> > C'est ce qu'on voudrait sans devoir choisir
>> > La mélancolie, c'est un chat perdu qu'on croit retrouvé
>> > C'est un chien de plus dans le monde qu'on sait
>> > C'est un nom de rue où l'on va jamais
>> > La mélancolie, c'est se r'trouver seul place de l'Opéra
>> > Quand le flic t'engueule et qu'il ne sait pas
>> > Que tu le dégueules en rentrant chez toi
>> > C'est décontracté, ouvrir la télé
>> > Et r'garder distrait un Zitrone pressé
>> > T'parler du tiercé que tu n'a pas joué, la mélancolie
>> >
>> > La mélancolie, c'est voir un mendiant chez l'conseil fiscal
>> > C'est voir deux amants qui lisent le journal
>> > C'est voir sa maman chaque fois qu'on s'voit mal
>> > La mélancolie, c'est revoir Garbo dans la reine Christine
>> > C'est revoir Charlot à l'âge de Chaplin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tommy News
>> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 08:48
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: OT: Anyone here fluent in French?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Je parle Francais.
>> >
>> > In French song, the pronunciation is quite different from the spoken
>> word.
>> > For example, the word Chose (Thing) is pronounced shows but it is sung
>> > "show-zuh"
>> >
>> > On 1/14/11, Cold Water <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Do you know anyone, with an artistic disposition,  who's fluent in both
>> >> French and English?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'm working on producing English subs for a French film, and there's a
>> >> sequence that's driving me crazy. It's a portion of a French song from
>> the
>> >> 60's... the writer was kind of legend poet figure of the time. The
>> machine
>> >> translation services just can't cope at all with his level of language
>> >> usage.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If you can help please contact me at:
>> >> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> CW
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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