Wrong. Gays ARE second class citizens, denied the same rights and privledges enjoyed by straight "breeders".
On 2/3/11, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > Gays are NOT second class citizens. > --- > but they are a protected group > thus, unequal > > On Feb 3, 6:50 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> No. Seperate is unequal. >> >> Gays are NOT second class citizens. >> >> On 2/3/11, frankg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > Tommy, >> >> > Aside from the "well if they're the same..." argument -- if a civil >> > union had exactly the same legal rights as a marriage, would that be >> > acceptable to you? >> >> > On Feb 2, 8:43 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Newt Bedhopper Frogrich is a Homophobic Adulterous Hypocrite! >> >> >> Let’s Tear Apart Newt Gingrich’s Gay Marriage Logic! >> >> >> 2/2/11 at 12:50 PM Comment 26Comment 26Comments >> >> In some ways, the debate hosted by George Washington University last >> >> night between Howard Dean and Newt Gingrich was the first of the >> >> presidential campaign season, at least for Gingrich. Based on his >> >> performance, he'll be a formidable debate opponent for his fellow >> >> Republicans and, who knows, maybe President Obama. The former House >> >> Speaker demonstrated his ability to speak easily and at length on what >> >> will be the most prominent issues of the campaign, like the economy, >> >> national security, health-care reform, and immigration. He also >> >> briefly shared his thoughts on gay marriage: >> >> >> So Gingrich's argument is that: >> >> 1. He believes that marriage should be only between a man and a woman. >> >> 2. The GWU student believes that marriage should be between anyone who >> >> wants to get married. >> >> 3. Both have an equal right to their own beliefs. >> >> 4. Gay people can't get married. >> >> >> Something weird happened there between 3 and 4. The logical solution >> >> would be that gay people can get gay married, Newt Gingrich can get >> >> straight married, and nobody has to force their own personal beliefs >> >> on the other. But Gingrich doesn't come to that conclusion for some >> >> reason. Admittedly, neither does about half the country, and >> >> Gingrich's position is widely accepted, especially among Republican >> >> primary voters, the first group he has to impress. >> >> >> But here's a prediction: Gay marriage may not be a hugely important >> >> issue in the election, but because President Obama seems destined to >> >> announce his embrace of gay marriage in the not-too-distant future, it >> >> will be an issue. And you just know how Obama is going explain his >> >> change of heart, whenever he's asked about it, in debates and town >> >> halls and TV interviews — with stirring language about upholding core >> >> American ideals like equality, individual freedom, and loving thy >> >> neighbor. Maybe our liberal New Yorker mindset is tainting our >> >> thinking, but it's not hard to imagine Obama's conversion pushing a >> >> populace already rapidly warming to the idea of gay marriage further >> >> in that direction, to the point that a clear, reliable majority of the >> >> country finds the arguments of Gingrich (and the rest of the >> >> Republican field) as hollow and unconvincing as they truly are. At the >> >> very least, Gingrich may want to start thinking about how to deliver >> >> these unconvincing arguments without a sneer. >> >> >> More:http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/02/lets_tear_apart_newt_gingrichs.html >> >> -- >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> >> Have a great day, >> >> Tommy >> >> > -- >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
