Jonathan, the socialist-communist, has the respect of no patriotic American, and is thus undeserving of being replied to. — J. A. A. — > On Mar 4, 1:51 pm, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: > It seems to me that John A. Armistead � Patriot � has wasted a lot of > time. Not only will he not post his alleged masterpiece (which he claims > has taken him 14 years to complete), he has allowed the current > government many, many years to further decompose. > > Since he claims to have all the answers, why has he not enticed the > masses to accept his solutions? > > On 03/04/2011 10:14 AM, NoEinstein wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sage 2: Apparently, you can't understand the difference between > > assessing the problems with our government and FIXING the problems. > > Like I've told you, the Constitution was too "trusting" that quality > > people would get elected to office. The Founding Fathers had no way > > of realizing the negative effects of having the elitist media treat > > elected officials like ROYALTY. The ego maniacal, career politicians > > we now have in Washington (mostly lawyers) desired supposed public > > service to make them feel more important. The effect of that is to > > have only ego maniacs willing to vie for public service. But I want > > salt-of-the-Earth types to represent us! So, I take the media out of > > the equation and limit our representatives to those who have NEVER > > held public office before. > > > Please realize that I don't have the time nor the motivation to keep > > justifying my spending fourteen years writing my New Constitution, > > only to have a "shallow" like you claim that no changes are needed. > > My guess is that you are hoping in your heart that I don't get to FIX > > the problems, because you like the unfair inequities in this country > > just as they are. If you can�t change your thinking relative to my > > efforts, this will be the last time I ever reply to you. � John A. > > Armistead � Patriot > > On Mar 2, 11:26 pm, Sage2<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Keith,Mark and John > > >> The weakness is not in the Constitution but in the fact that > >> we have moved away from it's original intent. To make a long history > >> short we have become a two party oligarchy whereby the politicians > >> represent themselves their "shadows" and their " phantoms"; not the > >> American public nor The Constitution. This is evident in the fact > >> that many in both parties try to undermine and discredit the > >> grassroots movement known as The Tea Party. It is their worse > >> nightmare. Fortunately it is a nightmare they will have to live with > >> for a long time. The process then is not to rewrite The U.S. > >> Constitution but to restore IT and restore power back to the American > >> people. Only then will the intentions of the " founding fathers " be > >> realized again ! > >> *************************************************************************** > >> ******************************************************** > > >> On Feb 27, 7:14 pm, NoEinstein<[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Dear Sage 2: Consider this: If our original Constitution was so > >>> perfect, how has it been possible that government evolved away from > >>> the ideals of the Founding Fathers? It did so because that document > >>> is WEAK! There was an assumption that elected officials would be > >>> motivated to do what is best for the country (ha!). But everyone > >>> knows politicians do what they know gives them the best chance of > >>> getting re elected. Making socialist-communist promises to the lazy > >>> wasn't nixed by any language of the Constitution. But my New > >>> Constitution will hang for treason anyone advocating socialism�the > >>> anti-thesis of the democratic ideals of the Founding Fathers. I > >>> suspect that you are far more left than the country can tolerate. > >>> Please give the readers a capsule description of your feelings about > >>> the free-market capitalist system that made the USA great. And about > >>> your ideas on the role of government in such an economy. Thanks. � > >>> John A. Armistead, � Patriot � > >>> On Feb 26, 11:11 pm, Sage2<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Hey Keith, Mark et al, > >>>> Suffice it to say that OUR Constitution need never be rewritten > >>>> nor changed, but from time to time revisited to it's original intent > >>>> and meaning, less personal interpretation. " It is what it is " and > >>>> was not intended to be anything more nor anything less than that. The > >>>> only true recourse the founding fathers wisely gave us was the " > >>>> amendment " and even they should be rare and few. We should not try to > >>>> fix what ain't broke by breaking that which don't need fixing ! > >>>> *************************************************************************** > >>>> ********************************************************* > >>>> On Feb 26, 6:31 am, KeithInSeoul<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> Greetings from Seoul Korea John! > >>>>> Uhm.....This seems to me, to be, "Much Ado, About Nothing"..... > >>>>> We'd all like to read your "New Constitution"; but if ya don't want to > >>>>> share it with the group, that is your perogative. > >>>>> The purpose of Political Forum is to share political thought, ideas, > >>>>> commentary and opinion, as well as to comment on government, politics, > >>>>> world > >>>>> affairs and current events. (And occasionally, pro football and > >>>>> baseball!) Your posts I find sometimes interesting and usually thought > >>>>> provoking, so therein lied my initial interest in you posting your, "New > >>>>> Constitution". It was never my intent to get a shit storm started! > >>>>> If you take the time to read both Jonathan's and Michael's posts, you > >>>>> will > >>>>> find that both men are thoughtful, and probably share many of the same > >>>>> concerns as you do. I consider myself a conservative libertarian, (not > >>>>> so > >>>>> much a capitalist as I am one who beleives in protection of free market > >>>>> enterprise, and I believe that there is a distinction between a, "free > >>>>> market" versus an economic system such as capitalism, of which I also > >>>>> support and subscribe to. Jonathan and Michael are damn near > >>>>> anarchists, > >>>>> (and I say that with a smile on my face, I don't think either would > >>>>> agree > >>>>> with me!!) but the point being, is that instead of taking the route of > >>>>> many > >>>>> of the nasty, hateful rhetorical smear merchants from the far left, > >>>>> (e.g.; > >>>>> the Wacko left socialist-elitist Moonbats) who from time to time and on > >>>>> occasion chime in here; I would like to think that the thoughtful, well > >>>>> reasoned conservative voices of Politicall Forum can have discussion, as > >>>>> well as disagreement with a little more civility! > >>>>> At any rate, have a good Saturday....Mine is almost over! > >>>>> KeithInSeoul > >>>>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:16 PM, > >>>>> NoEinstein<[email protected]>wrote: > >>>>>> MJ: You are NOT wanted on this post! In the last few weeks you've > >>>>>> managed to give your cook-booked quotations of others, and your own > >>>>>> breakfast-table-written "constitution" of sorts. But you have not > >>>>>> even gone back into my thread to read about my New Constitution, which > >>>>>> is detailed in essays that highlight the apt portions of my document. > >>>>>> And you obviously have no "Regard$" for anyone but yourself. *** > >>>>>> Since my base philosophy is pro-capitalism and pro minimumist > >>>>>> government, when you attack me�the author-messenger�you are > >>>>>> revealing > >>>>>> yourself to be a socialist and probably a communist. If it offends > >>>>>> you that I have figured you out, take your "quotes" and your > >>>>>> "regards� > >>>>>> elsewhere. You are not wanted here! � J. A. A. � Patriot > >>>>>> On Feb 25, 10:45 am, MJ<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> And yet ANOTHER fallacy spew. > >>>>>>> Let's see this panacea of yours. What -- exactly > >>>>>>> -- are you afraid of? That it is shit? > >>>>>>> Regard$, > >>>>>>> --MJ > >>>>>>> "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the > >>>>>>> consequences of evading reality" -- Alyssa Rosenbaum > >>>>>>> At 10:36 AM 2/25/2011, you wrote: > >>>>>>>> Dear MJ: You sir, are a total BUM! What I have written describing > >>>>>>>> my > >>>>>>>> New Constitution and how such would be apt to events in the news > >>>>>>>> would > >>>>>>>> fill several "War and Peace"-size novels. Not a single WORD of what > >>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>> have written supports socialism nor communism! I am in favor of > >>>>>>>> having a super-efficient, minimum-size government that has close to > >>>>>>>> zero interaction with individual citizens. �My� government will > >>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>> longer keep records on the law-abiding citizens, because taxes will > >>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>> value-added, only. And I have nixed having the government maintain > >>>>>>>> records of criminal investigations of anyone found to be innocent. > >>>>>>>> Those on-file records tend to prejudice law enforcement to "convict" > >>>>>>>> the person they failed to convict the last time. My corrections of > >>>>>>>> corrupt law enforcement practices, alone, should be justification > >>>>>>>> enough to ratify my New Constitution! Presently, the USA is a police > >>>>>>>> state�with the strings being pulled by corrupt public figures. And > >>>>>>>> the courts have done whatever the political leaders dictate. I�ve > >>>>>>>> put > >>>>>>>> them in their place, big time! > >>>>>>>> You, MJ, are little more than a party-crasher. I do not appreciate > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> the least having you post your elementary version of "A" constitution > >>>>>>>> of some kind. Post your God-damned junk constitution under your > >>>>>>>> name, > >>>>>>>> not mine. I am not playing games, here. If you would like to get > >>>>>>>> back into anyone's good graces, explain your political philosophy in > >>>>>>>> two paragraphs or less. Unless I see the words: �I pro-capitalist > >>>>>>>> and anti-socialist�� included, then I will know for sure that > >>>>>>>> you are > >>>>>>>> just some HACKER who is back-dooring your socialist-communist ideals. > >>>>>>>> Anyone who says anything at all negative about my ideals can only be > >>>>>>>> the latter. � J. A. A. � > >>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 9:40 pm, MJ<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> In > > ... > > read more »
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