I agree Greg. Neither Mark nor Michael can produce anything within the Constitution that defines war as such. Then, to top it off, how do they explain the "Constitution Thingy's" Article 2 Section 2, which defines and describes the President as the, Commander In Chief"??
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:38 AM, GregfromBoston <[email protected]>wrote: > Tell ya what guys. Y'all show me where the constitution says any use > of military force is by definition a declaration of war, ergo, > requiring congress. Sans that, you have a problem > > On Mar 24, 10:19 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > That constitution thingy is meaning less and less every day, > > unfortunately. > > > > And Greg.... I am shocked that you didn't realize that every action > > taken militarily since 1941 has been illegal. As commander-in-chief > > the President is subject to the whim of congress, not the other way > > around. (its that constitution thingy again) > > > > On Mar 24, 8:02 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Actually, there is that Constitution thingy., > > > Regard$, > > > --MJWars and imperialism are Siamese twins joined at the hip. Each > thrives off the other. They cannot be separated. -- Chalmers Johnson, The > Sorrows of EmpireAt 09:29 AM 3/24/2011, you wrote:Voting isn't deferal. You > might say Clinton usurped, since he did not > > > seek, "advise and consent", but then there's that War Powers Act > > > thingy. > > > You are actually saying every use of US military force since December > > > 8, 1941 was unconstitutional? > > > On Mar 24, 8:49 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > ROTFLMAO! > > > > The Congress UNCONSTITUTIONALLY deferred THEIR power. > > > > Regard$, > > > > --MJ"There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by > events, by time. Declaration of war is one of them. There are things no > longer relevant to a modern society. Why declare war if you don't have to? > We are saying to the President, use your judgment. So, to demand that we > declare war is to strengthen something to death. You have got a hammerlock > on this situation, and it is not called for. Inappropriate, anachronistic, > it isn't done anymore." > > > > --Chairman Henry Hyde, 10/3/2002, in session of House of > Representatives, during hearing on H.J. Res. 114, "AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF > MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ", discussing Ron Paul's motion to declare war.At > 08:37 AM 3/24/2011, you wrote:Bush got congressional approval. > > > > Next. > > > > On Mar 24, 7:38 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Why Were You Silent, Rush, in 2003?Posted byLaurence Vanceon March > 23, 2011 09:07 PM > > > > > A reader informs me that today Rush Limbaugh spent his show > attacking Obama for attacking Libya. What s the matter, Rush, don t you like > wars started by Democrats? Why were you silent in 2003 when your friend Bush > attacked Iraq to enforce UN resolutions? Oh, I think I just answered my > question. > > > > -- > > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > * Visit our other community > > > > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > -- > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > * Visit our other community > > > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
