If a bill is passed by congress and signed by POTUS, it is LAW. CONSTUTUTIONAL law, until the judiciary says otherwise.
Its black letter man! I don't like a lot of this any more than you do! I'm just saying its not unconstitutional until those empowered to determine constitutionality, BY THE CONSTITUTION, say so. Hell, I think the fed Dept of Education SHOULD be unconstitutional, citing the very same amendment you do. But Presidents ARE allowed to create cabinet positions, ergo, departments, and until a court agrees with me, its just as constitutional as any law and/or amendment passed/ signed/codified in the constitution or US Code. I'm also enjoying the debate. On Mar 24, 11:11 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > Here is Amendment X: > The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, > nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States > respectively, or to the people. > It remains for YOU to provide the answer to the burden you attempt to shift. > Amendment X is clear. If the Power is not provided to the Feds, it doesn't > exist. > Regard$, > --MJ"Usurpation, the exercise of power not granted, is not legitimized by > repetition" -- Raoul Berger.At 10:38 AM 3/24/2011, you wrote:Tell ya what > guys. Y'all show me where the constitution says any use > of military force is by definition a declaration of war, ergo, > requiring congress. Sans that, you have a problem > On Mar 24, 10:19 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > That constitution thingy is meaning less and less every day, > > unfortunately. > > > > And Greg.... I am shocked that you didn't realize that every action > > taken militarily since 1941 has been illegal. As commander-in-chief > > the President is subject to the whim of congress, not the other way > > around. (its that constitution thingy again) > > > > On Mar 24, 8:02 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Actually, there is that Constitution thingy., > > > Regard$, > > > --MJWars and imperialism are Siamese twins joined at the hip. Each > > > thrives off the other. They cannot be separated. -- Chalmers Johnson, > > > The Sorrows of EmpireAt 09:29 AM 3/24/2011, you wrote:Voting isn't > > > deferal. You might say Clinton usurped, since he did not > > > seek, "advise and consent", but then there's that War Powers Act > > > thingy. > > > You are actually saying every use of US military force since December > > > 8, 1941 was unconstitutional? > > > On Mar 24, 8:49 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > ROTFLMAO! > > > > The Congress UNCONSTITUTIONALLY deferred THEIR power. > > > > Regard$, > > > > --MJ"There are things in the Constitution that have been overtaken by > > > > events, by time. Declaration of war is one of them. There are things no > > > > longer relevant to a modern society. Why declare war if you don't have > > > > to? We are saying to the President, use your judgment. So, to demand > > > > that we declare war is to strengthen something to death. You have got a > > > > hammerlock on this situation, and it is not called for. Inappropriate, > > > > anachronistic, it isn't done anymore." > > > > --Chairman Henry Hyde, 10/3/2002, in session of House of > > > > Representatives, during hearing on H.J. Res. 114, "AUTHORIZATION FOR > > > > USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ", discussing Ron Paul's motion to > > > > declare war.At 08:37 AM 3/24/2011, you wrote:Bush got congressional > > > > approval. > > > > Next. > > > > On Mar 24, 7:38 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Why Were You Silent, Rush, in 2003?Posted byLaurence Vanceon March > > > > > 23, 2011 09:07 PM > > > > > A reader informs me that today Rush Limbaugh spent his show attacking > > > > > Obama for attacking Libya. What s the matter, Rush, don t you like > > > > > wars started by Democrats? Why were you silent in 2003 when your > > > > > friend Bush attacked Iraq to enforce UN resolutions? Oh, I think I > > > > > just answered my question. > > > > -- > > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > -- > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
